Robert Griffin (?) vs. Denard
Does anyone know anything about Baylor's QB, Robert Griffin? ESPN,com just dropped this gem:
Fast quarterbacks are all the rage. There's Taylor Martinez at Nebraska and the maize and blue blur that is Denard Robinson, but Baylor's Robert Griffin likely has a step on all of them. He'll need it to run past TCU's defense.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/gamedayKickoff103/week-3-preview
I find it hard to believe that a 6-2, 220 pounder has a step on Denard. But my ignorance is bliss.
September 17th, 2010 at 4:57 PM ^
Robert Griffin is really fast. Not an ignorant thing for them to say.
September 17th, 2010 at 4:59 PM ^
I should be clear - my ignorance (because I know nothing about the guy) is bliss.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:05 PM ^
He's fast, but after watching his highlight video I would still take Denard in a foot race.
He got caught/tripped up from behind a couple of times
September 17th, 2010 at 5:13 PM ^
Can break a tackle. I don't know if I'd take him over Denard as a QB, but any other skill position? Yep.
September 17th, 2010 at 7:03 PM ^
September 17th, 2010 at 5:04 PM ^
Griffin is the real deal but he's coming off a pretty rough injury, no way he's faster then Denard, but he definitely has a more suitable frame.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:05 PM ^
I've seen Griffin live. The guy is fast. He's more a Pryor/Vince Young type in that he is glide fast. He also set the record for most pass attempts by a starting freshman without an interception with something like 220 to start his career. He almost made Baylor decent 2 years ago. That's not something to take lightly.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:14 PM ^
Can someone explain to me what this means? It seems like people have started using the term without a clear definition for it. My impression is it describes bigger guys with bigger strides. They don't look like they're moving fast, but they're covering a lot of ground. Is that what "glide fast" means or am I missing something? Can little slot-guys be "glide-fast"?
September 17th, 2010 at 5:21 PM ^
September 17th, 2010 at 5:22 PM ^
That's what I interpret gliding to mean. Vince Young didn't look fast unless you could compare his motion relative to the USC players he was running past.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:10 PM ^
I looks like he would have been an ideal prospect for us instead of Terrel Pryor that year.
Griffin completed 142-of-236 passes for 1,994 yards with 21 TDs and 7 interceptions as a junior, leading the Bulldawgs to the Class 4A Division I state title game. His post season honors included a selection to the District 16-4A first team. Griffin, also one of the top sprinters in the nation, received the Gatorade Texas Boys Track & Field Athlete of the Year award after setting state records in both the 110-meter (13.55 seconds, [with a personal best of 13.3]) and the 300-meter (35.33 seconds) hurdles. His personal best time in the 400-m is a scorching 46.9. Rated as the No. 3 prospect in Central Texas for 2008 by Texas Prep Insider.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:11 PM ^
Who cares if he's fast? His dreads are childlike compared to Denard's:
September 18th, 2010 at 12:13 AM ^
His arms look pretty tiny in comparison, too.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:11 PM ^
No doubt Robert Griffin is a good player, and no doubt he's fast. It's up for debate who I'd rather have as a starting QB, but what I don't think is up for debate is who is actually faster.
Denard Robinson is unequivicably faster than Robert Griffin. Denard might actually be the faster starting QB in major college football, ever. There are only a handful of players in the NCAA right now faster than him, at any position.
September 17th, 2010 at 5:19 PM ^
It's up for debate who I'd rather have as a starting QB
I know it's your own subjective assessment, but why have you put this up for debate? And with whom are you debating?
September 17th, 2010 at 5:24 PM ^
I'm saying that it's by no means cut and dry as to who would be more successful in this offense - 2010 Robert Griffin or 2010 Denard Robinson. I like DR as much as the nexy guy, but had we recruited Griffin instead, we might be even better. Or maybe not, I don't know.
Just because something is debatable doesn't mean that I'm actually debating it with anyone.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:59 AM ^
so then who are you debating it with?
/s
September 17th, 2010 at 5:43 PM ^
strikes me as a real difference maker with Denard is just not the flat out wheels, but the quick burst to get to top end speed. It's like he's catapulted. The 87-yarder was a pretty good example as he works along the line patiently, makes the little move to the outside and then "boom", warp drive nearly instantaneous once he cuts up field. It was one of the things that stood out to me from the spring game footage. I remember thinking to myself, "Man, he doesn't need much room or time to get up field."
September 17th, 2010 at 6:11 PM ^
I attend Baylor University, and Robert Griffin is fast, but not as fast as Denard. He tore his ACL last year against Northwestern St, and in their first game this year he had a 30 yard TD run against Sam Houston St. where he didn't look as explosive as he once did.
He enrolled early at Balyor and as a 17 year old and in his first semester on the track team won the 400 hurdles at Nationals and made it to the semi finals in the Olympic trials.
He may have been as fast as Denard his freshman year, but this year he looks like he may have lost a step.
September 17th, 2010 at 8:36 PM ^
Go Bears.
September 17th, 2010 at 8:33 PM ^
Gottlieb made some sort of comment with Herbstreit today that Griffin is a better athlete than Denard. I started to furrow my brow until I remembered that it was Doug Gottlieb, then I just sort of chuckled.
He must be married to the granddaughter of Walt Disney himself, because I cannot think of any other person who doesn't deserve his/her job more (less?) than Doug Gottlieb.
September 17th, 2010 at 8:46 PM ^
Before he gave up track to focus on football, Griffin was considered likely to compete in the 2012 Olympics in the 400M hurdles. I'd give him the advantage over Denard for athleticism.
September 17th, 2010 at 9:47 PM ^
I looking at film on Griffin, I am not impressed. Imo Denard is faster.... and Denard is the better quarterback.
September 17th, 2010 at 9:13 PM ^
Denard will dust this guy (griffin) off... translation, Denard will smoke this guy. Denard will get in this guys ass... this guy will get walked by Denard. Nuff said!
September 17th, 2010 at 10:30 PM ^
Faster than DR? What does the guy base that comment on, or is it just something that seemed cool to write?
September 18th, 2010 at 1:12 AM ^
September 18th, 2010 at 1:25 AM ^
as fine a talent as DR is (I've previously posted on this board how much I've enjoyed watching him play), you BT guys aren't used to this style QB like we are in the BXII (speaking as a Nebraska fan). We've had many, many QB's in the DR mold, we could start most recently with Vince Young, some of you might even remember Heisman Trophy winner Eric Crouch, or maybe the really old posters here know something of the greatest QB never to win the Heisman, "Touchdown" Tommy Frazier: 6-foot-1, 190 pounds, lead his Nebraska team to back-to-back national championships, played in 3 and only player ever to win MVP of three national championship games.
My point is, no disrespect to Michigan fans, we know a dual threat QB when we see one , believe me Griffin can be scary, especially before he was injured plus he plays for a crap team. Enjoy Denard while you have him, he's great, but not unique except to BT play. Good luck the rest of the season.