Capital One Cup
So upon watching the new commercials I went online to check out the new Capital One Cup that has started this year. Pretty much, for those who don't know it is awarded to the best men's and women's team in college athletics. It gives points based on how colleges do in NCAA sports ( I believe mostly based on NCAA tournaments so bowls I guess for football). Anyways it ranks sports and how many points they get into tiers. I don't understand how lacrosse can be ranked a tier 2 sport and ice hockey is lower. Anyone have any numbers on the amount of D1 teams in these sports or as to why lacrosse would be higher up then ice hockey?
September 10th, 2010 at 8:13 PM ^
because there's more teams, thus making it worth more to be succeeding. a vast majority of Div 1 teams don't have hockey teams but do have lacrosse.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:26 PM ^
Just a quick count, but there are 59 Division I men's hockey teams. EDIT: Alabama-Huntsville brings it to 60.
60 NCAA sanctioned Division I men's lacrosse teams.
I think it may come down to women's teams. I am unwilling to count them.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:36 PM ^
I think there are only 58 DI men's hockey teams. The numbers I looked at weren't the right ones.
Anyway, there are 34 DI women's hockey programs and women's lacrosse appears to be all messed up with conferences made up of different divisions.
Conclusion: East Coast bias! WTF!
September 10th, 2010 at 9:40 PM ^
a fully sanctioned D1 sport, growing at a phenomenal rate. There are 91 programs. On the D3 level there are over 200! Men's D3 has over 150 programs. The growth in women's lax on all levels and men's lax on the D3 level is national, not east coast. Men's D1 is the only level of NCAA lax that is ridiculously east coast oriented.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:17 PM ^
I just looked at the wiki and it showed a bunch of conferences with DI and DII programs playing each other. Then it didn't show the other conference lineups.
Conclusion: You should fix the wiki (but I really don't care if you don't). Thanks for bringing the info!
September 11th, 2010 at 1:38 AM ^
see laxpower.com
September 10th, 2010 at 10:28 PM ^
and just if it wasnt clear the tiers are different for men and womens sports. for the women cup there isnt any ice hockey.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:28 PM ^
barely more D1 lacrosse programs - 60 - than hockey programs. The vast majority of D1 schools don't have lax either.
The likely difference is national exposure - D1 lax (along with D2 and D3) packs close to 100,000 people into an NFL stadium for the Final Four weekend each May, and D1 lax has a serious TV presence on ESPNU (thank you ESPN!!). The ESPN family of networks broadcasts at least 3 games a week - usually more, and more marquee games end up on ESPN2 as well. Also, fastest growing sport on the HS level in the USA.
Edit - as Blue Bunny says above, same # of teams. Women's lax is huge, and D3 men's is almost double D1 men's as well.
September 10th, 2010 at 8:15 PM ^
East coast, at least around DC, no one cares about hockey while lacrosse is huge. I also go to grad school at Johns Hopkins and like many other schools around here, have an influencial alumni base with strong ties to lacrosse. Or maybe just more schools have lacrosse than hockey but i am way too lazy to look it up. Personally, I would put hockey at least at the same tier, if not higher.
September 10th, 2010 at 8:18 PM ^
I'd would think that most every school has track, how high did that rank. If we are going on the basis that more D-1 schools with the sport = higher rank, then track should be pretty high. I would hope that would not be the sole reasoning though.
September 10th, 2010 at 8:26 PM ^
track was tier 2 i believe. its all on capitalonecup.com. If there are that many more lacrosse teams then hockey thats fair I guess i just didn't think there were. I know it's big out east but aren't there like no D1 teams west of the mississippi besides airforce?
September 10th, 2010 at 8:33 PM ^
Airforce might be it in the west, but i don't know where some of the smaller schools are. Most look east coast.
http://www.d1collegelacrosse.com/d1_lacrosse_teams.htm
Link to all the mens and womens D1 Lax teams. More womens than mens.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:02 PM ^
Isn't this exactly what the directors cup is, only it's being given out by a company that wants free advertising rather than the NCAA.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:36 PM ^
it's just a bastardized corporate version of the directors cup.
hockey not being a top sport is bs
September 10th, 2010 at 10:45 PM ^
the directors cup is based more on every sport not just the few that they picked but it's been dominated by stanford for the last 16 years