OT: NBA Western Conference Finals Q4 Open Thread

Submitted by WichitanWolverine on
Fourth quarter is about to start and the GSW are making their run again. I hope Houston can stop the bleeding and take this one, but I’m not holding my breath.

In reply to by Zeke21

mackbru

May 28th, 2018 at 11:51 PM ^

What are you talking about? The Warriors are spectacular to watch. LeBron is spectacular. Both series have been spectacular. That’s why ratings are through the roof - because it’s so fun to watch. You’re ridiculously off base.

turtleboy

May 28th, 2018 at 11:26 PM ^

Talk about a tale of 2 halves. Go up 11 in the first half, completely shit the bed after halftime. Reggie Miller said something once about what you do in the winning time, well the Warriors definitely picked the right time to win this one.

DoubleB

May 28th, 2018 at 11:54 PM ^

but I think the Rockets are the better team with a healthy Chris Paul. If both teams play at their peak, then yes the Warriors have the higher ceiling. But the Rockets showed they can prevent them from doing that enough over 7 games. The series was generally played at the Rockets pace and on their terms (isos) and I believe a healthy Paul gets them the win tonight.

maize-blue

May 28th, 2018 at 11:31 PM ^

I just read through some of the ECF Game 7 thread. It looks like the Warriors will have no chance against the GOAT LeBron James. /s

Sopwith

May 28th, 2018 at 11:46 PM ^

Despite not being able to throw it into the Gulf of Mexico from 3-pt range, they were driving at will and keeping within range. But defensively, I mean, what can you do if Durant just falls away from 20-25 ft or more when he's got a guy all over him and he just keeps nailing it? There's no D for that. Must have been totally demoralizing to play such good defense and have that rain keep falling in the 4th.

stephenrjking

May 29th, 2018 at 12:16 AM ^

It's amazing how people who either don't like a sport or are just hating on teams or players invent reasons out of whole cloth to validate their opinions.

People pine for the "good ole days" in the 80s, until what happened in the 80s--a team from each conference (both star-loaded superteams btw) being so dominant that they squeezed everyone else out and basically had the Finals to themselves. People hate on Lebron for joining a superteam of his own; then he makes the Finals with a bag of spare parts and people hate on him for not winning as many titles as MJ. They hate on him for not being clutch, but then he's so clutch that he wins the conference and it's back to the Finals being boring again. They hate on an imagined style of basketball that's boring and low-scoring, until scoring goes up, then it's "nobody plays defense," and when the Warriors win they complain that it's boring. They hop into a thread that's obviously about NBA basketball to make sure everyone knows that they think the NBA stinks.

Here's the thing: It's sports. You don't have to like them. You don't have to like basketball, or just the NBA. You don't have to like the teams that are in the Finals; indeed, it is typical and natural for ultra-successful teams to be hated (guess how I feel about Alabama!). The only justification to dislike something in sports is that you just dislike them. It's totally fine.

It is stupid to invent uninformed opinions with little bearing on reality to excuse the fact that one doesn't like a fourth straight Cavs-Warriors Finals when the mere statement "I'm just not interested in it" is a 100% valid opinion. One can recognize that a player or team are good and still say "it just doesn't do it for me," or even "I just plain don't like them because they're good." But people feel the need, perhaps out of simple insecurity, to find some sort of "logical" reason why another league/dominant team/transcendant player would be totes cool but THIS ONE is somehow illegitimate. 

There are few things that are more obviously an intellectually vacuous ploy for attention than to hop into a thread that's explicitly about a specific league to say "this league stinks."

stephenrjking

May 29th, 2018 at 12:57 AM ^

Not a good look (and a lot of these conference finals games have been ugly) but that's kind of an issue of randomness gone wrong. I think most Michigan fans recognize that Beilein's offensive philosophy is good even though Michigan couldn't hit shots against Villanova (or anyone else except TAMU and the Moment against Houston). 

DoubleB

May 29th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^

I don't think the quality of play we saw in either game matched the capabilities of any team. The Cavs and LBJ frankly look like they are just trying to survive. The Celtics didn't match the moment. 

We were promised free-flowing, 22nd century offenses in the Western Conference Finals but other than some spurts by either team, we really didn't get that. We got a lot of turnovers and long periods of frankly poor basketball. Some of that is just the end of a long season and some of that is just some better defense (particularly Houston).

jinglebaugh

May 29th, 2018 at 1:16 AM ^

Great post. I’ve noticed that I do this myself. I can’t stand the warriors or Steph Curry. I keep coming up with “rational” reasons for it, but it’s totally irrational. They play a style of ball that I like, and Steph seems like a pretty decent dude. Doesn’t change the fact that I can’t stand watching that mouth guard chewing jerk.

stephenrjking

May 29th, 2018 at 3:01 AM ^

I like Curry and I love the way they play. 

But this is the reasonable take. No matter how "well" a team plays, if they win everything all the time they're going to be disliked. And, you know what? It's good that way. You should go right on rooting against them. 

Not like the Warriors are all golden boys, either. They've got Draymond Green. 

jinglebaugh

May 29th, 2018 at 1:16 AM ^

Great post. I’ve noticed that I do this myself. I can’t stand the warriors or Steph Curry. I keep coming up with “rational” reasons for it, but it’s totally irrational. They play a style of ball that I like, and Steph seems like a pretty decent dude. Doesn’t change the fact that I can’t stand watching that mouth guard chewing jerk.

Mgoczar

May 29th, 2018 at 12:56 AM ^

Sad to see houston go down like this. No other team had a chance to take out warriors. Yea the finals are gl Kong to be a joke. Since KD is weak willed to join GS and make a super team, may be another superstar can jo inn Houston to blast GS and shimmy their cockiness out for a change.

SFBlue

May 29th, 2018 at 2:22 AM ^

It was a disappointing series, for the most part. The Warriors had to start Kevon Looney and the Rockets played without Paul the last two games. And Curry is really only 85% or so (his game conditioning seemed better today). The Rockets are a fantastic team, but we will never know how good they really are. Over most of the last four years the Warriors were a team with a deceptively deep bench. That is not this team. I see the Cavs series as potential continuation of ‘16, when the Warriors were hobbled a bit by injury and Draymond’s antics.