2019 Basketball Updated Rankings (247)
Duke and Kentucky better back the fuck off
The FBI can be scary. Just putting that out there.
Yeah well, it didnt stop Walter from doing his business
10th
Let’s get Juwon Howard’s cousin in the fold
This is the guy Matt D really likes, right? Folks think he has more upside than Wilson. Really wonder if we can sway him to AA
MGoBloggers disagree with Matt lol
It’s just incredible. Some people have never even watched a 4 minute highlight film for any one of these prospects but see what they are rated on 247 and take it as gospel. Same happens for football.
Matt D obviously watches tons of film and knows the game. He also speaks to other knowledgeable scouts and coaches. He thought this kid would be ranked higher than Wilson when it’s all said and done and he already is now (and continues to climb).
Personally, I’ll take them both, and Carton ;)
I wasn't familiar with Matt D's work but it's obvious he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
I'm not some magical basketball guru. I'm simply a guy that loves basketball and I attend more live events and have more exposure to watching prospects in relation to the mainstream sites for the most part. That is what gives me the advantage in my projections if an advantage exists. Through experience and the pure volume of live viewings that I'm able to attend, its second nature for me to make the distinction between very good prospect (Wilson) and absolutely elite (McDaniels).
All that to say its not that I'm any smarter with respect to basketball or projections than any of you guys or the mainstream guys...........its simply a matter of outworking the competition in terms of live viewings.
Hey Matt D, would you prefer all 3 of these prospects(McDaniels, Carton, Wilson) over the 2 local prospects(Weems & Watts)?
Ordered by tiers to denote talent level
Tier 1
1) Jaden McDaniels
2) Keion Brooks
Tier 2)
3) DJ Carton
4) Samuell Williamson
5) Romeo Weems
6) Jalen Wilson
7) Jae’lyn Withers
Tier 3)
8) Rocket Watts
9) Joe Girard
So yes lol
Is Juwan Howard a major supporter of the program? If Jalen Rose, Jimmy King, or Ray Jackson had a cousin, I get the feeling they would be major recruiters for Michigan. I don't get the same vibe from Howard and Webber.
Either would be phenomenal to have on board. Both and we are looking at a juggernaut over the next 5 years. Come on down!
I'll feel even better when their LOI's are signed
Tyus Battle's Hello post says, well, "Hello."
did these guys commit and i missed it?
No but they have Michigan as their leader right now
Michigan is in some of their top group. Some don’t even mention us.
Its up to the balls, not the kids to choose.
Something else that's paying off is Belein's reputation for running a clean program and doing things the right way. His stock shot way up after all these recent scandals.
Just to clarify, this is just 247's rankings. On the composite, Carton is #27 and a 4 star, Wilson is #34 and a 4 star.
If you subsrcibe to UMHoops, Dylan put out an article as a 2019 recruiting roundup. Key targets from that list:
DJ Carton - 23 (247), 27 (Composite), 5 star to 247 and 4 star Composite
Jalen Wilson - 29, 34, 4 star to both
Joe Girard III - 157, 156, 3 star to both
Rocket Watts - 47, 51, 4 star to both
Romeo Weems - 51, 37, 4 star to both
Jaden McDaniels - 10, 28, 5 star to 247 and 4 star Composite (no offer yet but Juwan Howard's cousin)
Keion Brooks - 9, 23, 5 star to both
Carton (PG) and Wilson (Wing/SF) we're both the presumed favorites for currently. Probably the two most likely to join the class as of today.
Girard (SG) has been a top target for the staff for a while. He went to the same high school Jimmer did, broke the NY State scoring record this year as a junior, and his dad played for Beilein back at Le Moyne. His recruitment is very open, he's recently gotten offers from Duke and Syracuse so there's a ways to go there.
Watts (SG) and Weems (Wing/PF) are both in staters who are seem likely to go out of state or to MSU.
McDaniels (Wing/PF) has only recently been in contact with the staff. MattD posted here about him 10 days ago saying he would potentially be his #1 prospect in 2019. McDaniels jumped 79 spots today to #10 in 247's rankings. He's from Washington (the state) and hasn't been offered yet, but contact has recently increased between him and Michigan and he's Howard's cousin. He's a tough get from the Pacific Northwest but he's one to keep an eye on.
Brooks (Wing/SF) is a long shot who we probably don't have much of a shot at.
When was the last time we felt Michigan had realistic chances with 3 separate top 35-ish guys?
Obviously we will not get all of them but recruiting definitely feels energized.
Still have to land them. We've been the bridesmaid too often. No doubt that any of them would be huge pickups.
Webber, Howard and Rose were all top 10 recruits IIRC
Yes, I remember that and, although I didn't look at the rankings, slightly more recently the Traylor, Baston, etc. class might have ranked up there. But that's going back 25 years ago.
Tralor was in a different class, i think with Bullock.
It was Taylor your thinking of, with Baston, Mitchell, Conlan and Ward. Monster class.
Traylor was with Bullock and White. year after the Ward/Taylor class I believe.
Wake me up if they actually commit. Not that I really care if they commit or not. Beilein will win big with a bunch of two and three stars if he has to, and has earned the right to not get criticized ever again for the classes he brings in.
Would love to have them, but I’m not going to be bothered by it if they don’t.
I've coached 6 times against Weems. He really is an intriguing prospect. Super athletic and has improved his shot. He has had his way with a lot of the inferior schools in the MAC, but I do think he could be a good 3/4 in the B1G.
Is it true he is still growing ? I think he could explode this summer . I watched him against Bridgeport in the quarters and while struggling shooting a bit , his rebounding and defense was outstanding .
Yes. He was listed as 6’6 as a freshman but he was closer to 6’4. I’d put him damn near 6’7 now with what’s got to be close to a 7’ wingspan
6’5 without shoes and 6’9 wingspan for Weems. He’s likely done growing in my opinion
He skies over me . I am 6-2 and at least 5 inches taller than me . I stood next to him after game in regionals when Izzo
Was up his ass everywhere , and by far taller than 6-5
and Romeo measured in at 6'4 without shoes at the 2016 Nike Elite 100 and 6'5 without shoes at USA training camp a few months back. Those are consistent measurements and accurate based on my eye test as well. With shoes he's 6'6 - 6'6.5.
Get both guys and I will be happy!! Go blue!
SOME DUDE IN PARMA IS RANKED #101 IN THE COUNTRY???
Crazy, right?
After watching carton’s slam dunk video this does not surprise me. Nasty. We don’t usually have players like that. Also, we have to pull Rocket Watts on name awesomeness alone
I usually resist getting excited about any possible recruit to avoid being let down but l made the mistake of watching him dunk everywhere and now I can't contain my excitement about the potential of this kid
What I hate about film is I remember Seventh Woods having an absurd dunking youtube video from his high school freshman year. Corey Sanders had nice dunking film also. Neither player ended up being elite.
he doesn't play the greatest competition in the world on the AAU circuit (NY2LA) and a lot of highlights I see from him are in the open court. Need to see more against a set defense that is providing resistance.
How many spots are available for the 2019 class?
- One if Matthews stays for the '18-'19 AND '19-'20 seasons
- Two if Matthews stays in the 2018 NBA draft OR leaves after the '18-'19 season
- Three if Matthews stays in the 2018 NBA draft or leaves after the '18-'19 season AND someone were to transfer before/during/after the '18-'19 season
EDIT: had my dates mixed up, should be fixed now
We'd have 3 spots if someone else besides Matthews also goes to the draft (Jordan Poole or maybe Iggy Brazdeikis) or someone trasnfers like you said (Eli Brooks seems like a possible candidate)
I didn't consider someone else entering the draft after '18-'19. Poole could certainly be a candidate for that if he makes a sophomore leap (which seems likely).
everybody leaves the program.