OT: College Football video games coming back
I know there's always been some talk on here about people missing the days of college football games which they stopped making since NCAA College football 2014. It became official just a bit ago regarding that apparently changing.
-It won't be EA making it this time, but rather Gridiron Champions .
-It's set to release not until some time in 2020.
-Football game by having 126 fictional teams. However, gamers will have the option of customizing their teams in the game, allowing for the option to recreate official teams right down to the player names.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/23/new-college-footbal…
https://247sports.com/Bolt/College-football-video-game-releasing-in-202…
I don't think this infringes on anyone's IP. If you can't do this, you should never be able to create a game with any ability to customize. And in fact, if you did give players in your game actual names, you'd better be darn sure nobody has that exact name, or else they could sue for IP infringement.
And Madden would probably also be due for a lawsuit, since you have the ability to create players in that game. Really, any game out there today could be sued if you can customize players.
At some point common sense needs to take over from the lawyers.
It's obvious to you that that's what you would do with it. But if it comes to pass, this will be nowhere near the first sports video game to use fictitious rosters and teams. And it's nowhere near the first sports video game to allow customization.
I'm not sure how you, as LJ put it, "easily demonstrate" the company's intent if the game is playable out of the box and does not advertise itself to be an NCAA ripoff.
How do you prove intent? How do you prove that the game maker wants the end user to violate NCAA trademarks? How do you prove a teenager will choose to recreate Shea Patterson and not themselves?
If the concept of video game customization is illegal, and that's what you're talkiing about here, then every sports video game in existence since about NHL '95 for Sega Genesis needs to be pulled off the shelves immediately.
I read that Ed O'Bannon now has a lawsuit in the works against Crayola because my 7 year old drew a picture of Rashan Gary.
This project was shelved two years ago. Most people concluded it was a scam.
Maybe they will actually release a "game" but it won't be worth playing, let alone paying for.
a guy on a buffalo?
This will probably make this company a bunch of money regardless of quality. There are a ton of disgruntled NCAA fans who will give this a whirl, even if only to find out that it sucks. As somebody who still farts around on NCAA '14 here and there, I can't imagine this will meet expectations. Not only do you have to customize rosters and uniforms, but if that goes well, you're still missing stadiums, bowls and sponsorships, fight songs, conference names, etc. Not that all of that is necessary, but the college feel was what made that game special compared to Madden and I don't know how you duplicate that with generic elements.
I will never understand why EA didn't (and STILL doesn't) just strip the rosters after the Ed O'Bannon fiasco and keep truckin'. They had everything important in that game. Just remove the "likeness" of the players and let's go. Those who want real guys can create them like this game will undoubtedly allow. Those who never really cared about actual rosters anyway (hand raised) would lose nothing.
Ex-college guys in that settlement got paid a lousy $1,200 on average two years ago. Some as little as $58. That money's long gone. Hope it was worth it.
Lets say a dozen players drive value. Fine. Lets talk about how they should be compensated not the Ed O'Bannons of the world.
The next time that the "Why can't college players get paid?" argument comes up, I'll remember this thread, and that I said, "Those video games are the really objectionable exploitation; don't do that in the first place, and then nobody needs to worry about how players are being exploited for things like video games."
If Michigan hasn't yet opposed any use of any of its trademarks in connection with this, they should.
The day that players start getting paid, is the day that I pack it in, and go golfing on fall Saturdays. I'd be a whole lot happier, if we substantially de-professionalized all of college athletics. Scale back the arms race on recruiting, expenses, early departures, etc., by about 1000%.
The Ivy League is my model for college football. No athletic scholarships; real student-athletes, and best of all, a 10-game season where they start after Labor Day, end before Thanksgiving, and play everybody else in the Conference.
Eh. Maybe. If you insist. But yeah, I'd rather not.
You're missing the point. Thoes games made a lot of money and EA made a SHIT ton of money off the player's backs (likeness, number, position, stats, etc) and the student saw a big fat 0% of it. It has zero to do with whether the players care or not, or how much they play or how well they do in school. It mattered how much money the game was generating and how little (zero percent) went back to the players.
But nobody would care about a 19 year-old Ed O'Bannon, if he wasn't part of the UCLA basketball program.
And the ivy league and their tv contract and fanbases and stadium sizes show that not enough people care if the players aren't the elite of available. And the ivy league still has exemptions for athletes and recruits.
People care about college sports partly because of the connection to the school but they also like watching good games. Michigan has a 100k stadium because they won a ton of games by having the best players, not because of the collegial atmosphere of the time. The players matter.
Michigan Stadium was built before there was an NFL as we know it. And, it was built before college football was anything like it is now.
Don't get me wrong; winning college football games has been the highest priority for Michigan for more than 100 years. They want to win at Yale, and at Harvard and Dartmouth and Princeton too. It's a competitive league; just different.
They made a decision a long time ago, to operate a different kind of league, and game.
I wouldn't want Michigan to unilaterally disarm, of course. I just find the Ivy League more aeshtetically pleasing on many dimensions.
Right they want to win but it was a different time. People want to win high school games too, that doesn't mean people will pay to watch it. People aren't interested in the ivy league. The NFL exists now, a fair percentage of players coming out of high school still have the nfl as their dream and want to go to a place that will allow them to prepare for the nfl. Those facilities might be full of things they don't need but the elite equipment/trainers/nutrition/etc all costs a lot of money and is valuable.
Times are different, I don't think college athletics could ever go back to the way people remember it because it isn't feasible. But thats obviously just my opinion.
Hasn't this studio only made crappy games in the past?
April 24th, 2018 at 10:18 AM ^
Huh, for some reason I had it in my head that they made a dumpy rugby game. Maybe that was another Kickstarter that tried to do a CFB game.
so this is something they could have done in 2015? Eh. The gameplay better be on point becuase I'm not wasting time uploading 120+ custom teams every time I want to start a new season/dynasty. We shall see.
So basically this is going to suck.
This is the guy who created the awesome Front Office Football. You should listen to him--he knows what he is talking about.
game is Tecmo Super Bowl, but I fear it will be more like Ten Yard Fight.
I adore video games so I'm totally for it