Ole Miss Fighting Transfers
I thought I would throw this out there before April Fools Day. That way there is no confusion. Ole Miss will be fighting the "immediate eligibility" of those that are requesting transfers. Yes, that means Shea Patterson. Let's just say Ole Miss came out firing with their rebuttal to the NCAA. They are not going to admit any wrong doing or grant approvals for the players in question.
Michigan could have been more aggressive and used more documentation that was made available to them from Shea's attorney. Furthermore, Michigan may submit additional documentation if they can (not guaranteed). They are going to need it. Shea's attorney is far less optimistic than he was a week ago. Hence the statement, he is referring all future inquiries to Michigan's David Ablauf. For the first time in weeks, I am starting to think this going to be a 50/50 decision at best.
Attorney's advising Michigan are adamant that they miscalculated the Ole Miss response. Brace yourselves for the worst and pray for the best. We know what the right thing to do is, but we are now dealing with a corrupt instituition (Mississippi) and an organization (NCAA) with a less than stellar track record in making the right decisions!
Figures...thanks for the update though
I should have known it wasn't a nickname/mascot change.
Fantastically well played
The name change to The Ole Miss Fighting Transfers would be appropriate.
March 31st, 2018 at 10:50 PM ^
With their educational prowess, eventually they would become the Ole Miss Figthings.
Shea will never play for them. Telling a recruit half truths (at best) and then fucking the kid over when the duplicity is revealed. Is there any honor in Oxford?
Good to know ol miss is putting the best interests of the student athletes first.
Between this and the game in just over two hours, my chest is going to collapse.
I could have waited a couple of days, but this could heat up quickly.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there also an NCAA rule change on the docket for the summer that could render all these transfer eligible regardless of the NCAA's decision on waivers? So on the off chance that the NCAA denies these kids' waiver applications that's not actually the last chance to gain eligibility?
Not sure how all of that will play out yet.
Mayber Shea's attorney and/or U of M and anyone else who might be adversely impacted should take the matter into the courts and sue the NCAA and Ole Miss. I'm not sure if antitrust would be applicable but there might be a case to be made that there was fraud in the inducement, i.e., the recruiting of the five individuals involved. If some of the players have NFL careers ahead of them, the year they lose has significant value.
The last thing that Mississippi and the NCAA want to have happen is someone going deep into school and NCAA documents and the discovery aspects of a lawsuit would do exactly that.
I would simply play Patterson and make the NCAA react.
Do you know when this will all come to ahead, and why was Michigan so optimists originally? I mean, I’m sure Michigan and Shea’s council had to factor the chance of ole miss denying any wrong doing, right ??
It is in the NCAA's hands now.
Ole Miss's decision to fight is not that relevant. It was always assumed that they would fight it as they are figthing the other violations as well. This was going to be the NCAA's decision, and unless Ole Miss is disputing some of the case's facts, which means disputing the violations, its response will be not be a game changer. Nothing has changed. Shea may be declared ineligible but not because of Ole Miss's response.
Ole Miss can fight the rules as well as we can.
....exactly, which is why I am surprised how we would have miscalculated their response. Unless there is more to it, either ole miss would fight or not, so why would we have not taken the worst cast scenario or ar their multiple responses ole miss could have had??? Very confusing and Michigan needs to get better outside counsel.
Right. If M has helpful documentation I don't know why they'd hold it back. About the only thing I can think of is if it's embarrassing to Ole Miss and M had a reason to think this evidence could tip Ole Miss from waiving their response to opposing. Seems like a good lawyer would have gotten a committnent from Ole Miss before withholding helpful evidence though.
Yeah, this part is totally baffling:
Michigan could have been more aggressive and used more documentation that was made available to them from Shea's attorney.
The way I'm reading this is, "Michigan pulled their punches and didn't put forth the best case possible."
If so.....WHY? It totally baffles me as to why somebody would NOT include helpful relevant information if they had the ability to do so.
I remember seeing at least a few posts on this board thinking that Ole Miss would not fight the transfers...supposedly in an effort to move past the incident quickly and not draw negative attention to themselves before they are to be fully punished.
In any case/negotiation, you determine what is your sides weakens ( in the case, it’s ole miss not complying) and how you over come it.
That's what I'm afraid of! F us over again!
It's cool, we're a basketball school anyhow.
Don’t forget hockey!
I'll add this to the large (and unfortunately growing) list of bad things I predicted that nobody wanted to hear.
I said his eligibility was not a given and if the NCAA could find a reason to say no they would. And, as usual, I took a insane amount of shit for being negative for no reason. And, as usual, I was correct.
It's going to be denied folks. Hate .e for telling you but it's going to be denied.
You must be really tired up there on your cross.
March 31st, 2018 at 10:06 PM ^
He’ll be fine after 3 days.
smug fuck face.
I mean it's almost like being on the planet longer gives you an insight and wisdom to forsee outcomes not afforded the young.
Naw.. Cant be that.
I’m starting to dislike you more and more as it seems like all you do these days is pat yourself on the back and tell everyone how wise you are. It’s tiresome and annoying as fuck
I'll try harder to be wrong going forward.
As I said a couple of weeks ago during the MSU postings-the only thing posters like you hate more than being warned of bad news is being REMINDED somebody warned you of bad news when it occurrs.
Beilein hater. I told you Beilein can’t recruit top talent! However, he’s coaching in the final four so he’s successful but can’t recruit? Let that sink in a little. You have zero proof, thus you aren’t correct!
Nobody likes hearing “I told you so. I’ve never offered one opinion on this topic, so it’s not as if it applies to me. (Something tells me you’re the kind of person that will fact check my statement!!!)
It just seems childish.
I do agree that with age/experience comes the opportunity for wisedom. But most wise people don’t need to TELL people how smart or informed they are.
Enjoy the Final Four and Go Blue!
Signed,
Probably older than you!?
Yeah because "I told you so" was so popular in grade school it must be just as beloved now that we're older.
Oh wait...it's not...
The truly wise don't need to tell anyone. It will be obvious to everyone without a single word about it uttered.
Else is wrong. You sound emotionally disturbed. You’ve already determined you’re right. And as of today’s date you are 100% wrong!
If you cited references to your Nostradamusisms, it might help the likelihood of your karma resurrection here. It is Easter eve after all, only got a few more hours.
This seems harsh, no?
haha, yep, yep it does. They're probably just a bit tense for the tip-off.
Quit trying to toot your own horn when there’s something with two possible outcomes and you picked the right one.
99% of the board said I was insane for saying this would happen. Go find even ONE other poster besides me who called this.
I'll wait.
That certainly didn't take long, and you didn't even jam up the thread patting yourself on the back.
YOU also predicted this would happen. 180 responses all saying he would get immediate eligibility and you and you alone said maybe not. I missed that thread obviously.
An older and wiser man would have known they were not the only one.
Agreed. MI football doesnt get to have nice things.
I hope it feels so good to be right. There is nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?
He's crowing about a coin flip. No talent or insight required.