The Big Ten Tournament at MSG was 100% awesome
Right venue, Wrong time.
Don't understand why people hate the DC and MSG locations for the B1G Tournaments when Michigan has a clear home court advantage on the east coast.
It's very audible on TV too. Must've been amazing in person!
Thanks Delaney!
They’d have a home court advantage in Detroit too.
I don’t really care so much about MSG — although Michigan hasn’t lost there in years — but I’m really upset at the Big Ten kowtowing to the Big East and moving the tournament a week earlier. The Big Ten should have dumped the money truck at the Big East’s door and made them move.
Delany’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t really understand what the Big Ten is all about.
LOL he's been the commisioner since 1990. he didn't do this by executive order, Beilein on BTN literally just said Delaney asked the coaches and ADs and M was all in for NYC.
Timing isn't ideal obvs, but this was an overwhelming success attendance wise and for M with an essential home court advantage.
Rotate from Chicago/Indi/Detroit/Phil/DC/NYC. Maybe Cleveland and MSP too
And I stand by my statement. He doesn't know what the Big Ten is all about. He's an ACC guy through-and-through, and it shows. The Big Ten has come a long way down from Bo's "toe meets leather at 2 o'clock and TV can be there or not."
Not only did he have to compress the schedule to get into MSG, he also negotiated the TV contracts that were responsible for spreading the Big Ten schedule out to include Monday and Friday games. Jim Delany cares more about the almighty dollar than he does the universities he's allegedly representing or the students who are responsible for making him all of the money in the first place.
And yeah, I saw what Beilein said. I also know he's way too polite to call out Jim Delany in public. There's a reason Delany was booed, and it's not because everybody there was so excited to have been a great follow-up to the thrilling Loyola-Chicago bid in Arch Madness.
lol, you make it sound like Delaney is some kind of omnipotent ruler over the poor conferent presidents and ADs.
Not only did he have to compress the schedule to get into MSG, he also negotiated the TV contracts that were responsible for spreading the Big Ten schedule out to include Monday and Friday games. Jim Delany you mean the B10 cares more about the almighty dollar than he does the universities he's allegedly representing or the students who are responsible for making him all of the money in the first place.
It's not a one-time thing. Moving the two conference games to December would have removed the need to compress the schedule after the new year -- two games is one week's worth, right? The reason for the 5-games-in-11-days kind of thing was Jim Delany's* love of money, pure and simple.
Incidentally, I've always been against the idea of the Big Ten tournament, so I'm hardly going to give him credit for that (although, given that it exists, it's nice to win it). I liked the older approach where the regular season meant more than just a way to earn a seed. Of course, the 14-team Big Ten has pretty much ruined the regular season anyway (see: MSU).
* If you want to throw the ADs in with him, that's fine too; I understand that Jim Delany is mostly the scapegoat. But the problem is, he's the rainmaker -- because he made the conference so profitable, nobody's willing to stand up to him. And while they might all believe that anybody in his position could have done the same thing -- all he really did was see the tide of rising TV contracts and get out ahead of it -- nobody's willing to take the risk. So I still think he deserves the lion's share of the responsibility for the changes that have happened under his watch -- and, let's face it, most of them have been bad.
I honestly think we’d have a bigger home court advantage in NYC than in Detroit. Detroit is split with MSU and very accessible for a large number of other fanbases. Michigan and PSU own NYC in the Big Ten. Against MSU and Purdue that’s a nice advantage for us.
Week and a half before NCAAs is just too long.
I doubt it. This team is so well coached and conditioned that this time off will be great. Beilein will know what to do to keep them focused and ready to steam roll their way to the sweet sixteen again.
Gives Livers time to heal.
And my liver time to heal.
it seems long, but remember if the tourney were next weekend, M could play on thursday, that's a flight late tues or early Wed, and tomorrows off. that's 1-2 light practices, maybe 3 if they played Friday, coming off of 4 games in 4 days (one in OT).
it's not ideal, but they can take a couple days off, practice fundamentals, rest again on the weekend, get your opponent(s) for the weekend and prep for them next Wed/Tues and with walk thrus at the venue. This week they can stress fundamentals, rest and enjoy it.
The problem isn't the break. It's the lack of one earlier in the season. We got through fine but probably lost that Nebraska game because of the schedule. If we had a player injured and others playing extra minutes or if the team had just generally been in a funk without some time off to regroup, it could have been really ugly. I'm not saying it wasn't a success for the big ten. But playing at MSG should be pretty rare.
Assuming they can get next week instead of this week, I don't see whay it can't be every 3-5 years.
ACC is at Barklays next week so between them, B10, and the Beast they can rotate from Phila, MSG, Bark every few years.
And only play out east?
no, at phil/DC/Bark if the garden is booked
Otherwise "wrong time" predominates.
But it can't be bad for the selection committee to have a week to process Michigan's latest BTT win! At the very least, seeding should be fairly rewarded!
I actually think it will help. Typically the selection committee ignores the BTT Final results and has the teams alreay penned in. It's just too late to move seedings around in a major way.
This time, they will already know who the BTT champion is and can seed accordingly from the beginning.
Venue and response to the event has been incredible. The week early has allowed the BTT to compete with little basketball on TV. Which ratings do you think were better, the BTT or the Missouri Valley tournament. I'd guess BTT. Plus, I think it benefits recruiting. Michigan beats two top 10 teams on back to back days and the nation was watching, without scandal or questions surrounding the team. The constant talk of JB teams peaking at the right time and the development of the players. Freshman and Sophmores playing big, important minutes and excelling means early playing time possibilities. They show most to the world, humility, guts and skill. They put on a show for the world and the work is not yet done. JB can figure out how to deal with an extra week off. It's not like football, a month or more plus a major holiday season. It's one week to rest a bit, practice hard and work on fundamentals. Overall, I think this is a tremendous weekend for Michigan, early or not. #GoBlue. Sorry about the formatting, on my phone.
The main reason I disliked MSG this year: the accelerated regular season schedule.
The venue itself? It was highly advantageous to Michigan. Spirited, friendly crowds on neutral courts are always a bonus.
I listened on the radio for a bit, it sounded like a home game.
...and the booing of Delany was very clear. He heard it too.
Delaney had a moment after he barely correctly announced Michigan as champions where he was profoundly proud of himself. How can I get that job?
Awesome venue for the tournament. Yesterday's game was honestly better than most home games in Ann Arbor...
DC last year too.
Pent up demand, I guess.
I can see why other Big Ten fanbases don't like it, but as a Michigan fan I've definitely reconsidered my criticism...
Agreed, I went as well. Awesome fun, loud, and extremely slanted towards Michigan.
Went to the Quarterfinals and Semis; it was AWESOME!!! Yesterday was ELECTRIC, U of M obviously dominates NYC but State showed up in hoardes too, it was hype. Today looked even better.
No problem with New York City becoming part of a 5 or 6 year rotation.
WE OWN EAST COAST TOURNAMENTS
I 100% agree. Come on now, Michigan winning the Big Ten in the fucking Garden while beating those pussies in EL, exposing Nebraska, AND winning the revenge game against Purdue? Shit is priceless.
My thoughts exactly. What a great weekend!
This is why the Big East Tournament was always so electric back in the day - before they broke up. The time off really doesn't worry me, especially with what should be a high seed. Just win the first game and we're fine.
I thought the crowd sounded louder yesterday.
Nobody is doubting it’s an awesome venue. If it was played next weekend 99% would be all for it every few years.
That's cause everyone hates Staee now
Michigan's 8-0 at MSG Since November 2012. That's Electric!
So many Michigan fans there to support the team.
Michigan is one of those teams that is fortunate enough to have a large alumni base in a lot of major population centers, and I really do think that helps us. I was admittedly skeptical of taking the tournament away from its Midwest base, but not only does Michigan travel well, in several cases, Michigan is already there to greet the team.
WE ARE VERY FORTUANTE to have John Beilein as our head coach!!! Go Blue!
Michigan loves New York kids, and those kids go on to form the large, proud, and strong NYC area Michigan fan base.
Is Clarence Boddicker really Rich Eisen?
Wish I could post my post-game photo from mobile. It's silly to have it a week early but it was a decided M crowd advantage all four games. This eastcoaster is happy.
If we win it every year they could have it on some Playground in South Central for all I care.
Mecca is ours
games between B1G and Big East with MSG and Barclays Center. Set it up for 4 semifinals and 2 finals at MSG on the weekend. The energy would be incredible.
Now that is a heck of a suggestion. Put the opening rounds in one arena or the other; then put the semifinals and finals together at MSG -- 4 games on Saturday and 2 on Sunday, one after the other.
Michigan 8-0 in east coast big ten tournaments, 18-17 in the Midwest. Should be on the east coast every year.
Fuck we should be petitioning for the football championship to be at MetLife and fedex field too
The first night was rough but once the good teams started playing, MSG got loud for everyone (even Rutgers). Thank you Jim Delany!
Tuesday - 2 B1G play in games, 2 opening round Big East Games - 12, 230, 530 830
Wednesday - B1G - 12, 230, 530, 830
Thursday - quarterfinals Big East - 12, 230, 530, 830
Friday - quarter finals B1G - 12, 230, 530, 830
Saturday - semi-finals - 12. 230, 530, 830
Sunday - noon and 2:30pm finals
But that would make too much sense and would satisfy all parties. Away with your witchcraft.