Arb lover

February 28th, 2018 at 2:43 PM ^

These surveys are pretty common. The university probably just wants a bead on what's normal.

As much as MSU feigns ignorance, they pay a lot of admin people a lot of money to track sexual trends and things including allegations involving student athletes.

ijohnb

February 28th, 2018 at 2:52 PM ^

first four questions could relate to incidents that began as consensual but possibly escalated/ended into a perceived assault.  Certainly an assault can occur within an otherwise consensual encounter.  If this is in response to issues related to a "rapey" culture at MSU, such questions would certainly be relevant.

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MeanJoe07

February 28th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^

Exactly, we need to identify perceived assults along with actual, theoretical, virtual, historical, cultural, nocturnal, habitual, sensual, conceptual, gradual, annual, and interperceptual assaults . They obviosuly cant just ask if someone has been sexually assualted or been involved in an unwanted sexual encounter, etc.  It's important to know whether they gagged on a penis or if/where bodily fluids ended up.  This is all VERY relevent and important to unpack. 

ijohnb

February 28th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^

you not understand that a woman who consents to have sex does not automatically consent to questions 1 or 3 of that survey?   Question 1 in particular.  That could be a stand-alone assault and the victim of it may not even understand that it is or can be. 

I don't even know if the damn survey is real, but if it is, I understand the nature of the questions and why those questions are actually relevant to try to understand a certain kind of culture that may be leading to a problem.

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NRK

February 28th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^

I'm going to be careful about how I approach this, but also there are studies that have been conducted (or are being conducted) related to the impact of pornography on sexual acts. Not saying this is legitimate, but the line of questioning would be consistent with that.

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MeanJoe07

February 28th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^

Yes, this is why I discuss every action that will take place prior to having sex. I put together an agenda or "meeting minutes" and have the lucky participant sign on the dotted line right before each act so that I know they have legally consented. its super sexy and never kills the mood.

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MeanJoe07

February 28th, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^

Joking aside, I get it. I just think perceived assault is a silly term. Im more concerned with the legal definitions of assault. You could accidentally gag on a penis and it not be assault (i would know) or it could be in a violent manner which is assault. The question is vague and seems silly without context unless more is provided that we cant see in the picture