MSU's Simon to Step Down
Courtesy of the State News:
http://statenews.com/article/2018/01/simon-to-resign
EDIT - Second Link: http://statenews.com/section/nassar-coverage
January 24th, 2018 at 7:51 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 8:04 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 8:15 PM ^
Hollis and the BoT need to be next on deck.
January 24th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 11:05 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 7:13 AM ^
Hopefully, she'll be convicted in disgrace, and then justice will have been served.
January 25th, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 10:40 PM ^
Per her quote "I have worked very hard to put Team MSU first." and this is why you are in this situation.
When your ethos is created on them against us with that chip on your shoulder, you rationalize things the "us" does as legitimate and "them" as just trying to take "us" down. She should have put people such as "students" or "children" first instead of Team MSU since that would have made her human or compassionate. Reading the quotes from her statement does not demonstrate any of this self-realization instead includes gems about the tragedy being politicized- no you were derilict of your duty as a President and rightfully were shown the door, good riddance.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/22203758/michigan-state-u…
January 24th, 2018 at 11:00 PM ^
blaming the anger towards her on politicization of tragedies?!
Holy shit.
She played the victim. Unbelievable.
January 24th, 2018 at 11:14 PM ^
A back-of-the-napkin projection has it reaching $1 billion (Detroit News article). There were 144 lawsuits against MSU as of December 2017, likely more now.
Their endowment is $3 billion. Something like this is pretty devastating to an ability to fund programs for students and research. All due to ego, pride and hubris. Kind of incomprehensible.
January 24th, 2018 at 11:19 PM ^
I don't find it incomprehensible at all. I hear people every day in every way justify why they voted for an admitted sexual assaulter. The MSU situation is a SYMPTOM of that acceptance.
It's just not possible to have it be okay if one person sexually victimizes people but not other people. It's not okay for any reason ever, and people who do it belong behind bars for a very, very long time.
January 24th, 2018 at 11:32 PM ^
How about their enablers?
January 24th, 2018 at 11:46 PM ^
Something to think about the next time you're around someone who says something crude like "I'd like to tap that".
If you smile, laugh, etc. you're an enabler. These things start little. They are much easier to stop at that stage.
By most accounts 40-50% of women in this country have been sexually victimized in some way. Fixing an epidemic of that proportion requires all of us to stop tolerating this shit, even the little shit.
January 25th, 2018 at 12:13 AM ^
after getting a child rapist off and putting the 12 year-old victim "through hell" (in the victim's own words), then you're an uber-enabler.
Giant Meteor.
January 25th, 2018 at 2:33 AM ^
probably doesn't get the reference.
January 25th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
There is a side of this conversation for whom facts are largely irrelevant because another story is more supportive of their preferred reality. This is a perfect example. Parrott the falsehood enough and some people start believing it. "Locker room talk", "He was just kidding", "Boys will be boys". All lame rationalizations for statements and/or actions that enable exactly what a bunch of them are now castigating someone who they don't like about.
You can't condone one person, for any reason, and then get on your high horse and preach when someone else does it. That action doesn't make you even, it makes you an enabling hypocrite.
January 25th, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^
If Snopes says it's "mostly false," it's probably true. If you're going to make an appeal to authority you should find one that has a reputation for accuracy and integrity.
January 25th, 2018 at 12:12 AM ^
My God man, you must be insufferable to go anywhere with.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:13 AM ^
Not objecting to someone saying "I'd like to tap that" is enabling? I checked Urban Dictionary to make sure I didn't miss something:
A term used to express approval, especially to the point of expressing a person's sex appeal; often used sarcastically
If someone said that in reference to a young person I don't think they're many around here who wouldn't respond negatively to anyone who said that. Too much extremism. We're talking about normal human decency here. Simon looks like a sociopath to me.
January 24th, 2018 at 11:20 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 7:47 AM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 12:24 PM ^
and how many come-from-behind wins will it take (in whatever sport) before "The Healing Can Begin".
Unfortunately, MSU is the poster child for seeing themselves as the victim.
If any of you thought PSU was delusional, you haven't seen anything yet.
January 25th, 2018 at 12:24 PM ^
and how many come-from-behind wins will it take (in whatever sport) before "The Healing Can Begin".
Unfortunately, MSU is the poster child for seeing themselves as the victim.
If any of you thought PSU was delusional, you haven't seen anything yet.
January 25th, 2018 at 10:05 AM ^
I said this in the other thread that was deleted but this must be what she was talking about when she couldn't make it to the victim's statements in the sentencing hearing. She didn't even do this until the sentence was handed down. Entire thing reeked of Dave Brandon. Burn it all, board included. I hope those victims take that entire effing $3 billion endowment.
January 24th, 2018 at 7:51 PM ^
Beat me to it. I hope more heads roll for this.
January 25th, 2018 at 6:19 AM ^
is a mandatory reporter and should be facing prison time. Also some of these people should be fired and not allowed to resign.
And USGA should have a few going to prison as well.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:24 AM ^
That's a great point. My wife is a mandatory reporter and she's had to do that on a few occasions. Funny how what is taken so seriously in a public school level is disregarded on a collegiate level. She shouldn't be let off the hook for that.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:42 AM ^
a mandatory reporter since she was a coach. Here is the list I found. Maybe school personnel encompasses her position?
Social workers Teachers, principals, and other school personnel Physicians, nurses, and other health-care workers Counselors, therapists, and other mental health professionals Child care providers Medical examiners or coroners Law enforcement officers
Also MI is not on the list of states requiring reporting by "other persons" who have knowledge.
https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/systemwide/laws-policies/statutes/m…
Nonetheless she was told in 1997 and if she had any sense of decency/humanity should've looked further than just dismissing the claim. Or having the team - including some who had been raped - sign a sympathy card for Nassar after he was publicly accused. WTF.
January 25th, 2018 at 10:14 AM ^
A coach PAID by the school. How would that not fall under "school personnel"?
January 25th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^
Remember reading wherever I read it and thought if a coach doesn't have responsibility to report potential sexual/child abuse who does? if JoePa was around we could ask him the same question.
January 24th, 2018 at 7:54 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 8:02 PM ^
She admitted she did, so.....
January 24th, 2018 at 9:02 PM ^
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January 25th, 2018 at 1:23 PM ^
Whatever.
January 24th, 2018 at 8:11 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 8:15 PM ^
Oh wow! Tom Izzo, welcome to the board!
January 24th, 2018 at 8:22 PM ^
For Tom.
January 24th, 2018 at 8:24 PM ^
Indeed it has.
January 24th, 2018 at 8:43 PM ^
Izzo's a douchebag too. I never could get behind all of the love for him from non-Sparty fans.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
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January 24th, 2018 at 10:29 PM ^
While Hoke's public handling of the Gibbons affair wasn't the best, it's not accurate to say that Gibbons "played almost his entire career with his rape accusations looming." He was arrested in 2009 but charges were not filed and the case was officially closed. Four years later, following changes in U-M's policies, the school re-examined the incident and he was expelled.
January 24th, 2018 at 10:35 PM ^