DJMich23

January 19th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^

I said a decade because that's when I really began to follow Michigan closely (2009). Both living in Iowa and being an alum has only made it obvious how similar they are. Even the offensive schemes are similar and both programs rely on their defense. Also, I think Michigan has a losing record against Iowa from 2009-present. Michigan is Iowa with a bigger overall brand and better recruiting.

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bronxblue

January 19th, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^

I don't disagree, but Iowa has had the same coach and staff for that entire time.  Michigan has gone through perhaps their most fallow period in recent memory, while this is basically steady-state Iowa.  Had Michigan maintained their state they were in 2001, they'd look a hell of a lot different.  You are your record, but I think Michigan is much closer to catching up to OSU than staying like Iowa.

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Tuebor

January 19th, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^

But we didn't maintain the state that were were in at the conclusion of the 2000 season.  Some reaons are that Henson left for baseball, Tressell took OSU to another level, and we couldn't keep up.

 

As regularly as Ferentz is mocked here it is worth noting that there is a much longer trend here.  The seven years of RRod and Hoke are included in 7 years of Carr and 3 years of Harbaugh and yet we are still Iowa.

 

Heck even over the last 3 years we are identical to Iowa, they just have one more overall loss due to playing in the 2015 big ten championship, but otherwise regular season big ten and bowl records are identical.

 

I believe our future is brighter with Harbaugh, but the stark reality is that Iowa is our doppleganger.  And with them in the easier division they might keep pace with us for the foreseeable future.

 

 

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JimmyFresh

January 19th, 2018 at 2:24 PM ^

Kind of disappointing to not land a guy that the staff was after for over two years.  Results on the field matter.  Win more games and we'll win more of these battles.  I do still like a lot the players we have in our current '18 class though.  Onward!!!

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AZBlue

January 19th, 2018 at 3:05 PM ^

Fall that OSU was a favorite and/or tough competition due to Schiano and the HS coach - lots of NJ coaches don’t love Partridge due to recruiting back at Paramus plus he had ties to RU and/or Schiano.

What Sam DID say was that OSU had higher priorities than him and probably didn’t have room. That is why OSU not getting the Carmen kid and having some flips was actually bad for M in this particular situation.

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Maison Bleue

January 19th, 2018 at 5:22 PM ^

Probably not the Bosco kids, but it already has benefited us with Paramus kids, see Gary, Rashan and Singleton, Drew. He is also our best recruiter overall and is the primary reason we are recruiting Georgia so well. I will take that over getting a few Bosco kids once in a blue moon.

It's just really sad that High School coaches let their own agendas get in the way of a kid's college decision.

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Maison Bleue

January 20th, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^

It's been reported by insiders that his coach has been steering him away from Michigan because he hates Partridge. Whether it really mattered or not I don't know, I just think it is awful for a coach to be steering a kid's decision in any direction. Let the kid make a decision on what's best for himself, removed from any coach's biases.

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AZBlue

January 19th, 2018 at 6:15 PM ^

and possibly a very good coach.

That will still allow him to recruit NJ very well - we have gotten several top ranked kids out of NJ that he had no previous ties to. However, this was the reason RU backed out of hiring him. I just think a kid who has the opportunity to go to Michigan isn’t as easily talked out of it as he would be if it was Rutgers - and it isn’t all NJ coaches just a few that felt he took their best players while at Paramus.

The difference is that in HS you hate the guy and may hold a grudge. In college you go out and try to hire him....like ‘Bama did this year.

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The Fan in Fargo

January 19th, 2018 at 6:40 PM ^

Well BassDude, I'll give the board my two cents on it since you are thinking what I am. There is always the chance that the snake worshippers in cbus are employing certain unethical tactics, if you're picking up what I'm throwing down. There was a time when certain military recruiters were being investigated for waltzing into highschools and getting all kinds of young/naive men to join that were never even closely interested in any of the branches. We'll just call these people masters of words. I believe these recruiters pulled heavy commissions as well. Anyway, my point being is I don't doubt that some of the schmucks on that staff aren't capable of the same persuasion. That is why they might come in at the last moments and use those tactics to sway a commit. If they used them all throughout the process and duration of the kids high school career, one might catch onto their game and their method would have less effect and start to stink. Call me conspiracy nutjob all you want. I just state the facts there kids as they are put in front of me.

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