Michwolve21

January 5th, 2018 at 2:12 PM ^

I don’t disagree that our current offensive staff is an embarrassment, and would rather have just about anyone. Curious what you mean by proven though? I know he’s a proven recruiter, is he going to bring us some creativity on offense? PS there better be muppets on the Exit Pep Hamilton post

JHumich

January 5th, 2018 at 3:01 PM ^

This does not look amazing:

"Enos took the Arkansas OC job in 2015 after he left the CMU head coaching post of his own volition, and led the Razorbacks to the 29th rated offense, the 54th offense and the 94th offense in his three years in Fayetteville"

JHumich

January 5th, 2018 at 3:16 PM ^

What about Sterlin Gilbert?

Tulsa, 2015

Texas, 2016

South Florida, 2017

All great offenses, particularly rushing offenses.

He likes to run Veer & Shoot, which is a Smashmouth-run hybrid of the spread offense, using the spread to create more space than you ordinarily get for a bunch of power-run/play action stuff. Basically, it's some of the philosophical stuff that we've been trying to do, but using the spread to make it legitimately feasible.

Texas and Illinois recruiting pipelines.

What's not to like?

JHumich

January 5th, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^

Veer & Shoot (Sterlin Gilbert's offense) from footballstudyhall.com

"veer and shoot takes the idea of a power run/play-action spread offense to its logical extremes.

The WR splits make for intense spacing, the passing game focuses on attacking deep or wide with screens and vertical routes, and the run game is filled with down blocking angles and two-back lead runs. Even the personnel are chosen for their extremes, veer and shoot teams target the biggest OL and the fastest WRs they can find so that teams are really punished for failing to use numbers to stop either the passing game or the runs."

kaz

January 5th, 2018 at 4:36 PM ^

I haven't seen anyone mention OC for Enos other than on this board.  The speculation is quarterbacks or receivers.

But for O coordinator, for D he's looking for an island who's going to run D on it's own.  On O it's a different standard, it's about hiring a guy who's going to run a system he's part of.  But yeah, the guy who fits that will get paid what's required.

You really want an OC who's going to tell Harbaugh to get stuffed if he wants to jump in?  Not me, I want Harbaugh deeply involved in the offense

BallCoachDubb

January 5th, 2018 at 4:45 PM ^

always runs the vision of the HC. Harbaugh isn't stupid, I would like to see him get someone who will add to what he is doing and expand it.  You want an OC who is bringing fresh ideas and good gameplans. Studying the best way to put your players in position to succeed.  Harbaugh isn't calling plays and Enos calling plays doesn't get me all nice and tingly inside, lol.  You aren't going to win in College with an old school style of football, you have to adapt.  Look at the playoffs and NC game on Monday. 

JHumich

January 5th, 2018 at 4:09 PM ^

You would be satisifed with us peaking at the #29 offense, then slumping to #54, and plummeting into the 90s?

Three of their four wins this year were Florida A&M, New Mexico State, and Coastal Carolina. Against these three schools came 1,432 of their 97th ranked 4,481 yards.

In their other 9 games, they averaged 339 total yards. That would have been good for 109th in the nation.

I'm not sure where the threshhold is for "not too bad," but that's WAY below my threshhold for "do want."

LDNfan

January 5th, 2018 at 5:14 PM ^

The fasination with 'creativity' is a bit out of control around here.

Teams win with talent and execution not by being more creative than their opponent. In fact, I can't think of one lose during Harbaugh's 3 years that came down to a lack of creativity. 

speakeasy

January 5th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^

Do you recall the first half of the Wisconsin and OSU games, during which we played approximately competent offensive football? Me too. Much of that was misdirection based, and a lot of that was counter runs out of the backfield. Our backs looked like their jerseys were made of Crisco.

While this doesn't address "how Harbaugh lost", offensive creativity is a fact and necessity.

StraightDave

January 5th, 2018 at 3:29 PM ^

To get over the whole Ohio recruiting thing. There’s a reason Urbz only recruited four kids from Ohio this year, and it’s not the kids from Ohio who are beating the crap out of Michigan.

BallCoachDubb

January 5th, 2018 at 4:36 PM ^

Can we get over this whole Ohio thing. You aren't beating the Bama/Georgia's of the world by focusing on Ohio. Urbs is going to get his guys before Michigan even has a shot.  I don't see Enos winning alot of recruiting battles for top ranked players. I've never heard that about him before. Michigan has to recruit nationally, which Harbaugh has been doing to win.  The talent in Michigan and Ohio isn't going to beat Ohio st let alone Penn st, Georgia, Alabama.

Maynard

January 5th, 2018 at 6:00 PM ^

Well that constant stream of Ohio players that seem to be ending up in East Lansing have done pretty well against us. How about we focus on beating them and winning our league first before we jump the gun on the whole Bama/Georgia thing.

LeCheezus

January 5th, 2018 at 2:49 PM ^

I'm guessing you don't have a corporate style job so you've never seen a great employee promoted and be a terrible manager?  Not saying that is the case with Enos, but there are horrible failed HC (Wade Phillips, Rod Maranelli) even at the NFL level that have returned to surccessful coordinator or position coach levels.  Sometimes people just get promoted past their level of competence.