OSU Wins Due To Refs Agains
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^
Sincerely, Jim Delaney.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:23 AM ^
To be fair, he might not know what holding is...
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:06 AM ^
The only thing Wisconsin got screwed by was Hornibrook
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:07 AM ^
Yeah. Bad call, but do you trust Hornibrook to go 45 yards in 1:40 or whatever? I do not.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^
Both teams looked terrible imo. It looked like an ad for putting Bama in. And I hate Bama.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:12 AM ^
Yea, i thought Wisconsin's 3-4 actually looked pretty terrible. They did get penetration a few times, but most of the time Barrett had all day to do what he wanted. And Barrett and the RBs pretty much had a consistent 3-5 yards easily when attacking the outside LBs.
Also their DBs got exposed, very early in the game, which it seems they adjusted for later. But still their defense overall looked much more flat-footed (DBs) and porous (LBs) than I anticipated.
December 3rd, 2017 at 2:33 AM ^
run the damn ball, even with hornibrook on a QB draw. for fuck sake.
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:25 AM ^
But he was doing just that! UW had moved the ball about 30 yards, efficiently, until that call put them back to 1st & 20. It should have been off-setting - though a very fair case could be made that there was no hold, since the guy was off balance pushed from the side. Instead, UW was behind the sticks with a bad feeling, and that was that.
Whether Hornibrook would have led them to that TD, nobody knows. But we do know that they were screwed bad with a horrible no-call, something OSU has greatly benefitted from the last couple of years.
Fuck OSU.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:41 AM ^
That was a defensive hold.
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
Guessing the OP is referring to the call on Wisconsin's last drive where their OL was called for a hold and the OSU DB tackled the receiver before the ball got to him.
Should have been off-setting penalties and 1st & 10. But I agree with this reply regarding Hornibrook. He's just not good enough.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:10 AM ^
Pretty sad. Wisconsin’s AD should call him out and demand his resignation. What a disgusting display by a loser of a league commissioner
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:51 AM ^
he's advocating for his conference. UW was guaranteed to get in it they won so he was arguing that OSU should get in due to the strength of the entire conference. this guy sucks, but this is what he's supposed to do. would you prefer he said he didn't give a shit what happens to teams in his conference? why does anyone think this is an insult to UW? This board needs to chill with all the conspiracy theory bullshit. continue to post actual facts to support an argument but one holding call does not make a point. Those articles do not make a point.
December 3rd, 2017 at 4:25 AM ^
Agree 100%. What was he supposed to say? BIG only deserves a spot if they have an undefeated team?
If it were Michigan instead of OSU there wouldn’t be any M fans saying we don’t deserve to go.
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:13 AM ^
a very mediocre year IMO.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:13 AM ^
What is the signature OOC win for the conference this season? I can't think of one.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:11 AM ^
Smart people and work in good faith he states. That guy lost his mind already. Crooked fuck.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:22 AM ^
Do we not remember the 31-0 beat down last year? Why can't a 1 one loss Wisconsin get into the playoffs? PSU won the confrence and won the head to head last year and didn't make it in. Let the same happen to Ohio.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:34 AM ^
they played in the top 20 they lost to. They're not a top 4 team by any metric or eye test.
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:55 AM ^
they only let by six. it's not like they lost by multiple touchdowns to an unranked team...
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:53 AM ^
Although I don't think they should be in, they compare awfully similar to Bama if you ignore names. Best win - LSU/NW. No other "signature" wins. Only loss vs a top 10 team. Bama has only beaten 3 teams with an over .500 record and they are only still being discussed because Bama
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:19 AM ^
Oh it will, but it will probably be a one loss Alabama.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:56 AM ^
"You could look at [Ohio State-Iowa] as Ohio State’s ninth [conference] game. They could have played an FCS opponent"
He's a dick, but he has a good point. Alabama played Mercer as their 9th game. They never even took the risk of a bad game.
He is not wrong on that point.
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^
You could also look at Purdue or Indiana or whatever other walkover game OSU played as its ninth game. He just cherry picked their worse loss as the ninth game.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:31 AM ^
or you could just look at it like anyone else would which isn't a justfication for scheduling a lesser opponent.
The issue isn't whether you played one more conference game, it's that you got beat badly when you played it.
Michigan got no credit last season for losing to Iowa by a single point on the final play of the game, after it then lost to Ohio State in two overtimes with horrific officiating mixed in. And Michigan crushed the very team that was allowed into the conference championship, which having then won it, were subsequently excluded from the playoff by Ohio State.
Ohio State got the benefit of the doubt last year and proceeded to see that voter doubt shattered by the reality of their awful performance in the playoff against Clemson, the very team they would liikely be matched up with this year if allowed to slither into the playoff again.
No, Ohio State might be the Big Ten's Alabama, but they don't deserver any special consideration on a national level. They squandered that consideration last year. Sorry, not good enough.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:20 AM ^
I don't like MSU, I despise OSU and I hate the big 10 refs but Delaney ... don't think there is an English term for my feelings ; he can burn in hell forever for all I care.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:53 AM ^
It's a shame there isn't another team like USC up for consideration. I really don't want either of these teams to get in. Just a big crap sandwhich.
This whole BCS championship thing is just a big abortion. Either go back to traditional bowls and vote on the champion or have a real playoff.
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:07 AM ^
OSU shouldnt jump Bama. Bama would bitch slap OSU. OSU are frauds
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
How do you know Alabama isn't a fraud too? It's not like they've proven much this season.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:09 AM ^
I'm just waiting for some very serious fan to get fed up with it and walk into the B1G headquarters or something. I'm not going to write what I wish would happen but man would that be one for the ages. I don't know how that isn't called though. That receiver was tackled. Something is so off it's almost to the point it's just unreal. It's really bad.
December 3rd, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^
Uh, what are you implying here?
Edit: Seems it got deleted. Good.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:07 AM ^
The buckeyes are their precious cash cow. Fucking sick to my stomach. They’re like duke basketball, they get every call and hardly ever get called for anything themselves. I fucking hate Urban Meyer and his smug fucking smirk.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:16 AM ^
I want to agree with you, but how does OSU winning help get the B1G more money?
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:23 AM ^
Agreed. OSU won’t make the playoffs after that performance, but Wisconsin would have if they could have pulled it out. No benefit for Delaney or the Big 10.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:25 AM ^
Yes they will. Resume is clearly better than Alabama.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:37 AM ^
They got blown out twice... they have better wins but worse losses
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:44 AM ^
The committee has shown it doesn't care about the losses. It cares about good wins.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:01 AM ^
The committee has also shown that it will take 11-1 teams that didn't win their division with a reasonable loss to a good team over 10-2 conference champions with a blowout road loss.
If OSU makes it in despite Bama being in the same situation the Buckeyes used to enter last year, the Tide should rightfully raise holy hell.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:10 AM ^
"If OSU makes it in despite Bama being in the same situation the Buckeyes used to enter last year, the Tide should rightfully raise holy hell."
While I agree with this statement, I disagree with the idea that one bad decision should be repeated based on precedence,
December 3rd, 2017 at 2:22 AM ^
2016 OSU was 11-1 and 3-1 vs top 10 teams
2017 Alabama has only one quality win LSU (who lost to Troy)
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:59 AM ^
They are conference champions.
The burden of proof is on Alabama since they are not conference champions. They don't have that compelling proof this season.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:31 AM ^
By cash cow I mean year after year revenue. Also, it’s debatable whether or not they go to the playoffs. Bama has no good wins all year, osu has a few, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility. Also osu gives the big ten the best chance to win it all. I’m not suggesting a rigged outcome, just stating the fact that Ohio state constantly is the beneficiary of calls good and bad. It’s very rare that Ohio is on the wrong side of a bad call or no call. Fuck em’
December 3rd, 2017 at 4:31 AM ^
if it were all about year over year revenue, then surely we'd be getting a lot more referee gifted wins than the zero we get. I believe it's more likely either B1G officiating sucks, or they have a subconscious anti- Harbaugh bias. Or a combination of both. Or maybe one of those isn't subconscious.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:20 AM ^
It's not a smug smirk, it's that the assclown has a chin like a turtle so it just looks like a smug fucking smirk, or it could be that he is a smug fucker
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:08 AM ^
How did we lose to either of these teams. Their QB play is as bad as ours this year but we had an excuse that we didn't have our 1st string QB
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:29 AM ^
a very young team.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:00 AM ^
We were winning when JT got hurt. So, theoretically their bad QB didn't beat us.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:01 AM ^
We were winning when JT got hurt. So, theoretically their bad QB didn't beat us.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:01 AM ^
We were winning when JT got hurt. So, theoretically their bad QB didn't beat us.
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:01 AM ^
We were winning when JT got hurt. So, theoretically their bad QB didn't beat us.