December 1st, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^
Boy this thing is just gonna keep dragging on and on... get the popcorn, its gonna be a good one.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
gone through ten coaches in their search. The first question the next guy asks is: "Do you even have the authority to hire me?" Everybody's reading can use a soundtrack to go with that popcorn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckcTK8FOwE
Meanwhile in Tallahassee, it's being suggested that a player revolt is underway, with players insisting they'll transfer if Fisher stays. Not sure how much credence to give this, but there is serious resentment at this stage. . .
December 1st, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
I think this is more apropros: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQf2TiwBFHo
December 1st, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^
Latest rumor is that Fulmer is soon to be announced as interim AD. On what planet is hiring a former coach with a history of backstabbing people that was run off from his job to be an advisor to the president and now an interim AD a good idea....
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:24 AM ^
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December 1st, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^
..history with coaches from the late Carr era, to RichRod, to Hoke, to Harbaugh and with the ADs during the same time period.
Both schools have rich football traditions, high performance standards, lofty fan expectations, big stadiums, loyal followings, and have a hard time getting it 'right'.
December 1st, 2017 at 4:13 PM ^
But of course, our 2010 search came out much worse. I mean, there's no way that they would end up with someone like Brady Hoke as their coach.
That would just be silly.
Rob
December 1st, 2017 at 8:03 PM ^
At some point, even Hoke has to wonder if it's a good idea to stick around...right?
If I'm him, I'm already looking for the first decent DC opening, and then:
A) Privately using as leverage to get a semi long-term deal at UT (Read: anything slightly better than ‘interim’)
AND…
B) Jumping ship the moment UT shows signs of anything short of said semi long-term deal
December 1st, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
Here's the best part tho... He apparently "went rogue" and almost salvaged everything by hiring Mike Leach.
Phil Fulmer backstabbed him in the AD and nixed the deal so that he could take over himself. (Johnny Majors flashbacks anyone?)
So now UT could've had Leach, but instead fired Currie. This tells me the Haslems don't want Leach and made a powerplay with Fulmer bahahahaha.
Hole just keeps getting deeper.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
The Mannings don't want Tee Martin so we'll see on that. Sounds like a clash going on with at least 3 different factions involved.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 11:04 AM ^
The rumor is that Peyton doesn't like the fact that Tee Martin won the national championship after he left.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^
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December 1st, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^
The Mannings are are bitter group of people despite outward appearences. It's a very Southern way to go about things: be polite and affable in the moment, but complain and subvert later.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^
Also known as Minnesota-nice.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:42 PM ^
THANK YOU!!! About time someone said it. Lived there for almost 9 years and it's crazy how not nice they actually are.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:51 PM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 1:13 PM ^
Also true of a lot of Canadians, in my experience.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:21 PM ^
It's a very Southern way to go about things: be polite and affable in the moment, but complain and subvert later.
Oh, this is absolutely true. A knife coated in sugar is still a knife. The southerners in my experience are very good at holding grudges and exacting payback in subtle, devious ways.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
Wow, the prejudice here and in the post upstream is just dripping. And shocking.
IF this is true of the Mannings (and there's not a lot of evidence cited here) that necessarily has nothing to do with the rather large group of people known as "Southerners." It is neither caused by that group of people, nor does it necessarily reflect upon them.
It is not appropriate to stereotype and generalize entire groups of people in such a demeaning way.
December 1st, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^
My wife -- who spent a decade in Atlanta -- has a phrase: "Raised right in the south." What she means by that is southerners are raised to abide by a code of manners and behavior. That's a good thing.
But southerners are people, just like the rest of us, and have human failings. That includes carrying a grudge, and getting revenge. They do that under the umbrella of their manners. That's the thing alluded to by me and the post above.
Other parts of the country do the same things, but with less manners.
My experience from spending the last two summers in rural West Virginia also suggest there's a component linked to tight-community protection. That's more common in the south where families tend to stay and grow as a community. Outsiders are kept at arms-length. And they are very protective of their own. They're polite about it, but it's definitely present.
These are just observations of reality.
December 1st, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
This is a much better way to phrase things:
But southerners are people, just like the rest of us, and have human failings. That includes carrying a grudge, and getting revenge. They do that under the umbrella of their manners. That's the thing alluded to by me and the post above.
I think that's a less stereotyped way of presenting something. The post above yours, and your previous post, are both much harsher and much more generalized in the way that they assign negative attributes to southerners in particular.
Such flippancy would not be accepted if it were referring to other generalized regional or ethnic groups.
As a resident of Minnesota for 8.5 years, btw, I still haven't quite mastered what "Minnesota Nice" means. Other than that people are generally reserved but coolly polite here. But I'm not in the Twin Cities, either.
December 1st, 2017 at 3:03 PM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^
Everybody is an "aggrieved class of people" these days.
It's fun and profitable.
December 1st, 2017 at 6:29 PM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 8:56 PM ^
what do YOU mean "you people"?
morons.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:28 PM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 3:33 PM ^
I live in the Charleston area of WV and have spent a good bit of time in the rural parts as well. What part were you in?
As a previous resident of TN(8 years) and currently WV(13 years), I can agree that there is a surface of manners and hospitality. But, under that, is a quickness to assume the worst intentions and to behave as rude as any other culture but behind your back. In my opinion it is worse to pretend to be nice and actually be the opposite of your pretense.
My wife(who is from Parkersburg, WV) and I have been told numerous times, "well you are northerners. We can't expect you to understand."
December 1st, 2017 at 4:50 PM ^
Braxton County.
Up I-79 from Charleston about 70 miles.
Ever been to Leonoro's Spaghetti House, down on Washington? That's my wife's favorite hole-in-the-wall Italian.
December 1st, 2017 at 6:25 PM ^
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December 1st, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^
I live in the South (and have lived in the midwest, west, and east). Southerners may be a little less likely to call you an a**hole to your face, but when it comes to backstabbing. . . pretty universal trait.
I get that Southerners like blondes are about the only people left that you can--sometimes--get away with stereotyping so baldly, but that shit don't pass muster.
December 1st, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^
he's saying that southerners are just as likely to backstab than anyone despite their outward politeness that might lead one to believe they aren't as likely to backstab you.
I don't think they're saying they're worse than anyone else, they're just saying they're not better.
December 1st, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^
My wife is from the south. They culturally tend to handle things in a passive-aggressive manner.
That's what they learn.
They won't get in your face from the get-go like a New Yorker will.
But it all ends up in the same place.
When they are mad, you will still know it.
It's not that they are not mad, they just handle it differently.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:28 PM ^
Yep. You can hear a Southerner say "Well bless your heart!" with all appearances of being kind and never know that they just called you seven different kinds of idiot.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:27 AM ^
Yes. I agree. My ex-girlfriend from the south as well.
Passive-aggressive is the diplomatically way to put it. I would just call it hypocrisy, and flat out lying. Southern men on occasion can rise above this. Southern women do not seem to be able to.
December 1st, 2017 at 2:24 PM ^
Who is coating their knives in sugar? Must be why most southerners are a little heavy around the waist?
December 1st, 2017 at 12:35 PM ^
December 1st, 2017 at 8:43 PM ^
The term is Passive-Agressive Personality Disorder
December 1st, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^
Thank God he didn't win the Heisman too.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:01 PM ^
the voters get something right.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^