Wisconsin Snowflakes: The Coaching

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on November 18th, 2017 at 3:35 PM

This will be the repository for your thoughts and hot takes on the the overall coaching performance in our game against Wisconsin. 


Doc Mango Gibbs

November 18th, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^

His decision to put a true freshman safety in man coverage on 3rd and 16 might be the worst coaching decision he's ever made.

That said, his unit lost 9 starters and dominated the #5 team for three quarters.  When your defense gives up 17 and you lose by 14, it's hard to blame them.

It is not hard to blame an offense that constantly gets destroyed despite having better atheltes than every team they face.


November 18th, 2017 at 4:01 PM ^

not the defese or even putting a freshman in the game. I will say that was perhaps the second half turning point. However, Michigan doesn't do anything well offensively. And even Peters, who is going to be good, is inconsistent. You just got to have consistency at the qb position.

I mean if its John O'Korn next week, I may volunteer to work Saturday because he has no game. If Peters is unavailable, I would try to get Speight ready if he can throw at all or maybe not. It will be a bodybag game.

This was obviously winnable if you make no mistakes and score when you can. But how many times did Michigan get called for an offensive penalty on first down in Badger territory. At least twice.

I had no real issues with the officiating, other than the ridiculous PI call that allowed Wisconsin to continue pounding the defense with about 9 minures left. I mean Michigan got a holding call this game, negating a big play. And as the opponent you can only count on getting one or two ot those a game.

Anyway, the coaching staff had no where to go once Peters left the game. O'Korn magic happened at Purdue because he had personal motivation in succeeding that day, that went beyond team goals. He threw some decent balls but led the throws into big hits.



November 18th, 2017 at 7:00 PM ^

QB is only a portion of the issue. I’m not sure Baker Mayfield would be successful with this line and RB blowing assignments, with receivers not getting any separation, and generally bad offensive play calling and game planning.

The QB play has been bad, but it honestly seems like a symptom of a larger offensive problem. These QBs have too play in fear. When these assignments get blown, pass rushers are getting free hits at full speed.

Blue Velvet

November 18th, 2017 at 4:44 PM ^

You're seeing something I am not.  I am not excusing the coaching, especially O line, but what makes anyone think Wisconsin's D has better athletes than our O or that they get "destroyed" by any team with clearly inferior talent?  PSU and MSU are not inferior in talent, at least not clearly so, and if it ain't clear, you can't really make that sort of claim.  And if you're referring to other teams' offenses, again, what basis for declaring we have "better atheltes"?

Occam's Razor

November 18th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^

Don Brown is the only reason we were even in the game!!!! 

We had the ball 3 times on their side of the field and only came away with 3 points in the second half!!! 

Not to mention the fumble at the 1 in the first half. 

Come on. Blaming Don Brown and his staff is the last thing we should do. 

Look at Harbaugh and the offense. 

This program has still not won a big road game. Next year, we will have 3 at ND, OSU and MSU. 


Does anyone have any confidence that things will get better without coaching changes? 


November 18th, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^

I was pleasantly surprised with how well the game was going.  Sure, the refs robbed M of one touchdown which would have been nice to have--but M was mixing in some nice passing plays, and was moving the ball far, far better than Wisconsin.

After Peters was knocked out of the game, everything changed.  Momentum, effort, pass-catching, play-calling, on D as well as O. 

When Peters didn't get up, it appeared M resigned itself to the inevitable. 


Blue Velvet

November 18th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^

You'd think everyone would know that people paid to talk about college football on TV - or any other subject for that matter - will say anything, whether or not it has a shred of truth.  So what if a graduate of OSU speculates about Harbaugh returning to the NFL?  This is the same guy who reported Les Miles to Michigan, right?  Herbie knows nothin' about nothin' in this department.


November 18th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^

I have no problem with those decisions. He’s aggressive and it pays off more than it works against him. He puts players in position to make plays. Michigan’s front 4 were held in check once Wisoncon took a 2nd half lead. Their DBs got beat one on one. Their safeties were a step slow in the 2nd half. Players were put in position to make plays and the young guys didn’t win. Throw in a couple questionable calls.

I’ll take that aggressiveness over Lloyd’s bend but don’t break with any lead. So often, that broke. Michigan has a really talented young defense. Keeping putting the onus on them.


November 18th, 2017 at 3:49 PM ^

Take away the punt return and for a long time it was 10 to 14. 

That punt return  happened because people let up as even to me at first it looked like he was going to let it go.  Just bad .....

The defense did enough to win this game and they can't be the ONLY side that delivers every single game.  Plus players have to play the coaches can't do it all.

We lost yet another starting QB today.  That factors in. The thing is we played them tough ... it wasn't a run away train. 

Players need to make plays ... Wisc players caught balls in traffic and tight windows and our guys did not.  That has to happen.  QB went down ...... QB fumbled at a bad time.  etc etc  The coach didn't fumble.  It happens.   We punch that ball in where Peters fumbled (even a FG) and take away that punt return and poof in it.

We did ok.  I thought we could win this one.  I truly hope the injury to Peters isn't too bad.

We lost to a good team.  We played tough until Peters went down.   I'm good with the effort.  It's not the end of the world.   I saw some good things with Peters in there at QB today and it will be good for us going forward.  Our D did a fine job and we can't hold every team back .... they only gave up 17 points .. that should be enough to win a game in truth.

Next Week !  

Kilgore Trout

November 18th, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^

Saying Chryst owns Harbaugh is dumb.

Chryst took over a team that had been 20-7 (.741) in the previous two season.

Harbaugh took over a team that had been 12-13 (.480) in the previous two seasons.

Chryst vs Harbaugh head to head = 1-1.

Chryst record against MSU, PSU, and OSU is 1-2 (.333).

Harbaugh record against MSU, PSU, and OSU is 3-5 (.375).

This season has been disappointing and frustrating, but get out of my face with that crap. 

Red Dragon

November 18th, 2017 at 8:35 PM ^

It shouldn’t be a contest. Take all of your stats about who took over programs with winning percentages and you get out of MY face. The fact is, THIS IS MICHIGAN and they are Wisconsin. We should be recruiting nationally while they recruit their back yard. So yeah, as a coach doing more with less this is another coach that owns ours. Question: when will we be able to say we won BECAUSE of our coach?


November 18th, 2017 at 3:40 PM ^

Are fucking criminal. Newsome, Speight vs Purdue, Peters, Higdon being bent backwards by Wisky player. The team needs to start getting nasty and fight back against this crap. No other Big Ten team experiences this crap to the level we do.