Gregg Williams doesn't know how to use Jabrill Peppers.
Just watching this game, and noticing how little Jabrill is involved in it. He is lined up as a true free safety. The perfect position for him is at nickel corner or some sort of hybrid space player as he was used in college. That way he could be closer to the line of scrimmage and play the run more often. When he was at Michigan it felt like he was involved in almost every play. For Cleveland, he is just a bystander...
It's possible that Cleveland doesn't have the right personnel to compliment him so Williams has to use him in a way that doesn't take advantage of his skillset but still, to line him up as a free safety? It's a waste of his abilities.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:04 PM ^
So you’re new to Browns football? Every 2-3 years they fire everyone and lose some more and do it all over again. You should see what they do with QBs!
November 12th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^
Waiting for MGrowOld to politely chime in and explain to you the numerous foibles of the Cleveland Browns.
November 12th, 2017 at 6:03 PM ^
Had $500 on Browns +13. I think i need to kill something.
November 12th, 2017 at 6:35 PM ^
people...
go.....
browns fans = lions fans, with no real differences worth noting. feel your pain, well maybe not the $500 part of it.
November 13th, 2017 at 7:23 AM ^
I'm a Lions fan too. Though to be fair, the Browns in the 80s were fun to watch, except in AFC title games. Sigh.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^
Those Browns are still fun to watch most of the time, they are called the Ravens. The new Browns, circa 1999 have never been fun to watch and have been almost an insult to old Browns.
November 12th, 2017 at 9:04 PM ^
I don’t ever bet but even I know you shouldn’t be on your hometown/favorite team!
November 12th, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^
Truth! Especially if your team is the Lions or Browns. No matter how big the spread. Heck I won’t even draft Lions in fantasy.
November 12th, 2017 at 9:31 PM ^
The next time you feel like throwing away $500, could you send it to me instead?
I've got a sailboat to buy and turn into a permanent residence. Every penny counts.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:13 PM ^
May never be a good time.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^
From coaching, to management, to player performance, Cleveland is fucking atrocious.
November 12th, 2017 at 5:30 PM ^
He actually is known as a really good coordinator in the NFL. He has been around for awhile and is actually in the Don Brown mold of confusing quarterbacks and blitzing from all over the place. Jabrill obviously was best used as a playmaker/playwrecker in college, but the NFL is a lot different. I agree he should be used as a HSP but that position isn't nearly as easy to utilize in the NFL where every good team has quick twitch athletes at slot receiver, running back and even tight end. Jabrill has a lot of talent but using him in the "Viper" role isn't completely practical considering NFL teams are so good at getting their playmakers in space and there isn't just one Jabrill can follow around.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:08 PM ^
Williams was also the guy behind the Saints' bounty system and he was caught on tape coaching his players to target an opponent who'd gotten a couple concussions earlier in the season. His suspension should never have been lifted. Should be changing bed pans somewhere.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
jack of all trades, master of none. he’ll get there just needs time
November 12th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^
Not when they line him up twenty five yards from the line of scrimmage. I'm not exaggerating.
November 12th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^
If they wanted a center fielder type safety, they should have just drafted Hooker and let an actual NFL team take
Peppers... At least that way his skill set could be utilized
November 12th, 2017 at 10:43 PM ^
in a year or 2. They will give up a 5th rounder, turning into a 4th due to amount of snaps taken. He will learn at that time how to play in the nfl.
Rabakked
November 12th, 2017 at 6:51 PM ^
For sure, the guy has got 10-12 years ahead of him. So what if he needs a couple years to settle in. That's why he was drafted in the bottom of the first round and not the top five or ten.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:03 PM ^
He was never great in coverage, via man coverage, or playing read and react zone as a safety. He's also not big enough to play true LB in the NFL and take on blocks. You almost have to customize your defense to have him play as a hybrid space player with limited coverage responsibilities, but most teams/coordinators wouldn't even consider that.
Love Jabrill, he was a great Wolverine, but he's more of a speciality player in the NFL. I don't see him growing into a real impact high level player, the role is not there to match his skillset/size.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
Fuck Cleveland they ruin every one of their players’ careers
November 12th, 2017 at 9:27 PM ^
I know...that Jim Brown guy really sucked!
I don like the Browns. For the sake of the NFL, I hope they get better. Leaving Cleveland will haunt them for a long time.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:15 PM ^
What exactly did you expect?
November 12th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^
Get rid of Cleveland put another team in Florida or any other good state
November 12th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^
from an ownership standpoint cleveland is great. loyal fans, selling tix and merch. ownership has zero incentive to change their formula. get a new coach every couple years to keep interest, working great for the top boss
November 12th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^
Lol there is no public interest in the Browns plus no one will spend 100$+ to go to a Browns game
November 12th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
they have 60,000 season ticket holders. TV deals are shared amongst teams so non-local interest means nothing.
November 12th, 2017 at 5:40 PM ^
Cleveland is one of the top fan bases in the NFL...
November 12th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^
……….…….....................why?
November 12th, 2017 at 9:33 PM ^
What the hell else are you going to do in Cleveland?
November 12th, 2017 at 9:31 PM ^
In what way? This seems like a pretty hot take, so I'm curious how you are qualifying this statement. I'm not saying they aren't a super loyal fan base, but I'm genuinely curious how / why you consider them a "top" fan base. That's a tall claim when - off the top of my head - I can easily think of 10 (likely) better fanbases.
November 12th, 2017 at 6:06 PM ^
Have a large and loyal fan base. That's just a fact
November 12th, 2017 at 6:46 PM ^
How though? that's crazy
November 12th, 2017 at 9:40 PM ^
Obviously you are not a Lions fan. The Lions used to sell out the Silverdome, for years the largest stadium in the country, every year they had a pulse, or at least Barry. Sure McDonalds had to buy the last 2-3k seats sometimes, but 80k+ for the Lions?? 60k for the Browns is childs play.
Heck, the Browns have even been to several NFC Championship games, unlike the Lions.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:39 PM ^
It’s a cash cow really. Every year fans have to buy a new jersey because their player has either moved on or their one year of glory is over. If fans are keen on buying the starting qb’s jerseys then they’re basically buying an extra season ticket every year.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^
Have you been to Florida? I don't mean Key West or South Beach or Disney. I mean every other part of Florida. It's Cleveland with better weather.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
Florida will bring more public interest than Cleveland
November 12th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^
What does this even mean? Cleveland supports the Browns. Outside of Cleveland no one cares about the Browns. Outside of Jacksonville, Miami, and Tampa does anyone really care about those teams?
We're not talking Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys type of fan bases.
November 12th, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^
Very few fans within Tampa and Miami. Clearly, weather is a reason but also transplants. Sports aren't a big thing in Florida as compared to Midwest, for example. No one ever goes to Rays games even when they are competitive. Yeah, hurricanes are good this year but no one has been going to their games over the past two decades, unlike big ten teams.
November 12th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^
There are a lot of former residents scattered around the country that still support their old teams. Those combined probably equal the paltry number of Bucs and Jags fans.
November 12th, 2017 at 7:05 PM ^
Probably the dumbest post ever. The Cleveland Browns Backers are one of the largest fan bases in sports. Browns fans get together all over the states and as a fan base is one of the largest and most loyal.
I love being a Michigan fan, but so many of the loud majority of the fan base are dumb blow hards looking to be Mr Hot Take.
November 12th, 2017 at 7:55 PM ^
Sorry Mr. Weiner : (
November 12th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
apart from the Browns, I hate all Ohio teams. But it's a GREAT city. Fans are loyal, the city has been effectively reinvented. Awesome restaurants, entertainment, new and renovated suburbs, the lake towns surrounding it are really good places to live.
It's no AA, but it's a cool place.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
I'd say it's West Virgina with much worse weather.
November 12th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^
SItuated on a polluted river instead of a polluted big lake. And, yeah, I've been to both places. Rust Belt is Rust Belt.
November 12th, 2017 at 5:10 PM ^
This is a shockingly bad take.
November 12th, 2017 at 6:34 PM ^
AA is consistently rated one of the best cities to live in. Cleveland, on the other hand, is not.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^
I'm aware of the perpetual ineptitude of the Cleveland Browns but Gregg Williams was the defensive coordinator of the Saints when they won the super bowl. I didn't think he would misuse Jabrill.
He's got the potential to play like Charles Woodson did when he won DPOY in Green Bay. He can do all of the things that Woodson did.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
Peppers was never the cover or ball hawk Woodson was.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:35 PM ^
I like Peppers, but comparing him to Woodson is not fair to Woodson at all.
November 12th, 2017 at 4:36 PM ^
Gregg Williams is a good DC because he won a SuperBowl? Then what was Greg Robinson's problem because he has two rings as a DC.