The last time an opposing OL was called for holding against Michigan was against MSU, then Air Force
That's pretty incredible. In 2016 Michigan B1G opponents had two holding calls all year. There's also this story from a few years ago that raised my eyebrows.
Ohio State was just called for their first hold in Big Ten play since 2013. This is not a misprint. 0 holds called on them in 2014.
— Andrew Pitz (@AndrewPitz) October 18, 2015
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:43 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2017 at 10:20 AM ^
Holding call on opposing OL vs. Ohio State:
Indiana - 1
Oklahoma - 0
Army - 1
UNLV - 1
Rutgers - 0
Maryland - 0
Nebraska - 2
In 7 games, OSU has only gotten the benefit of 5 holding calls on opposing OL.
October 23rd, 2017 at 10:53 AM ^
Unless I misread something while I was looking through the data, there were no holding calls against Indiana in the IU-OSU game.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:06 AM ^
Yep - you're right.
So OSU has actually gotten LESS holding calls in their favor than Michigan this year.
October 23rd, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:52 PM ^
blow past the opossing OL so quickly there is no chance for a hold to occur. Right?
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:56 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 9:29 AM ^
I was pretty frustrated watching this game that there never seems to be a penalty against our opponents. PSU kicked our butts and it wasn't the officials that cost us this game. But, damn I remember one play in particular where Gary beat the tackle and you could see his jersey being pulled backwards, damn near off his body, as he was trying to track down McSorely. I was like holy shit that's holding this play is comine back. Nope big downfield pass and no penatly.
How is it that UM only comitts penalties during games????
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
Conspiracy theories are for losers.
But holy crap, this looks like a teach-Harbaugh-a-lesson thing.
I've watched all those games, and Michigan - especially Gary - gets held constantly.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:03 PM ^
...but according to this, Michigan seems to be the second least penalized team in the B1G. And opponents have the second least penalties against us: http://www.bigten.org/library/stats/fb-confldrs.html
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:17 PM ^
that chart in the link wrong. Michigan is the 2nd MOST penalized team in 2017.
You are correct, however, in stating the M is 2nd to last in opponent penalities.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:33 PM ^
Thanks for catching that. I guess it's a similar point in that we both suffer and profit almost equally.
October 23rd, 2017 at 9:53 AM ^
You only read one part of the chart wrong. Michigan has the second most penalties, and Michigan's opponents have the second least.
October 23rd, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
It's worth noting that "second to last in opponent penalities" means "M's opponents have had the second LEAST amount of penalties against M".
Just for full information, here's the net average penalty yardage for each team in the B1G this year (i.e. avg/game Yards penalized - avg/game yards opponent penalized): https://i.imgur.com/MjnOf1a.png
Michigan comes in last. Consolation prize: OSU is second to last, and it's quite close.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^
he called it out, said the ball did not even get close the 26 with no receiver around. If i remember correctly thee was a Penn State guy towards the middle of the field, but at the least that play deserved an explanation (unless I missed it). Something like "there is no call for intentional grounding, there was a receiver in the area" at the minimum.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:31 PM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 10:57 PM ^
I was livid at that. The pass did not cross the line of scrimmage. That should be grounding every time--even if a receiver is in the area (and I didn't see one). Right? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that rule.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:50 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^
The problem with the grounding rule is the ambiguity of "receiver in the area." It is clear who is an eligible receiver, but being "in the area" can be vague. Is it a guy 3-4 yards away from where the ball hit? Is it a guy 5 yards away? 8 yards away? It seems like it's a judgment call, but it seems like there should be a defined perimeter, like must land within 3 yards of an eligible receiver to be considered "in the area."
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:16 PM ^
because of the World Series...and don't you think Fox would have preferred for Michigan to win, sit at 6-1 along with Penn State, then they get to have an elimination game next week, and then another elimination game with Ohio State Michigan at the end of the year?
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:56 PM ^
If we had won, next weeks game would still be a top 10ish matchup with the winner being in great shape for the playoff and the loser being eliminated and it would make The Game more attractive. Overall, the networks would have been better off with a Michigan win.
There was no conspiracy other than the refs being afraid of what would happen to them in the shower after the game if they called anything on PSU.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:12 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:21 PM ^
If we lost by 3, I could entertain this theory
October 23rd, 2017 at 5:31 AM ^
The game was predetermined. IF, it had gotten closer the refs would have shifted momentum appropriately, as we saw on a couple significant occasions.
October 23rd, 2017 at 5:29 AM ^
Makes me want to boycott college football but, sadly that just is not realistic
October 23rd, 2017 at 7:53 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:50 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:51 PM ^
MSU was flagged for two holding penalties against us. Here are the holding calls against opposing teams dating back to Illinois last year:
2017
Penn State 0
Indiana 0
MSU 2
Purdue 0
Air Force 1
Cincinnati 0
Florida 2
2016
FSU 1
OSU 0
Indiana 0
Iowa 0
Maryland 0
MSU 0
Illinois 1
It seems absurd considering the DL we have had throughout that stretch.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:58 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:19 PM ^
2017
Penn State 1
Indiana 2
MSU 2
Purdue 1
Air Force 2
Cincinnati 1
Florida 0