October 22nd, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^

this team needed to replace. As Yost for a year or more pointed out this year was going to be a rebuild based on what he saw in the two deep. I was hoping he was wrong.

He was not.

That being said, a reorganization of the offensive staff needs to be made. Drevno departs, Frey takes over OL, Pep sole OC, Jay coaches TE, and add coaches for WRs and RB. The mess this year shows that the current setup is not working.


October 22nd, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^

Like I can't watch this show until we win a big game. Sadly just seems pointless. Thank you for posting though and giving others the option.

I Bleed Maize N Blue

October 22nd, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^

Well, the highlights and coach interview aren't great in a loss, but the Ironman of the Week segment might provide some info about the featured player that you didn't know, and I find the segments about something historical about or something interesting going on at Michigan to be worthwhile.


October 22nd, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^

posted on the internet......Harbaugh overrated blah blah blah......Fans done with Harbaugh blah blah blah. The internet and twitter are not your friends.


October 22nd, 2017 at 4:43 PM ^

People underestimate the impact of inexperience and injuries.

Look at what has happened to the following top teams from last year because of it:



- Michigan 

Conversely, look at what has happend to these former "hot seat" teams as they got older and healthier this year:

- Notre Dame

- Penn State

- Arizona

There are more examples like this.  Same coaching staffs, but very different results year to year based on being older and/or healthier versus younger and/or injured.

Those coaching staffs did not suddenly get smarter or dumber.

Yes, Alabama and OSU can blissfully play on for championships no matter what, but nobody else really can.  Not even recruiting superstars FSU and USC (and us!)

In modern scholarship-limitation, everybody-is-on-TV college football, older/healthier players will beat younger/injured players most of the time.


Dorothy_ Mantooth

October 22nd, 2017 at 4:51 PM ^

We saw progress as the year progressed, last year and (so far) this year....not so much

At the end of Harbaugh’s first year I was convinced that by ‘18 = in the final four, and by ‘19, playing for a nat’l championship - I know longer feel that way.

Bigly yuge

October 22nd, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^

College football is my favorite sport. I just get angry and fed up that Bama and OSU are always competing for the playoff & national titles. Thank goodness for Clemson or else it would be OSU vsBama every year. I hope we can get to that level someday. Osu and Bama lose players and it doesn’t matter. When osu and Bama are young it doesn’t matter. When one of them loses during the season it hardly ever matters. OSU looked average vs Oklahoma early this season. Now osu are dominating week after week and ranked higher than Oklahoma. So infuriating that osu and Bama seem to always lose at the “right” time.


October 22nd, 2017 at 11:46 PM ^

Bama I get.

What still kind of amazes me is that the other half of that pair is Ohio State.

Not USC, not Texas, not LSU, not Florida or FSU or Miami.

Ohio State.  Rust belt, cold weather, declining population Ohio State.

Pretty much the same profile we have.

I'm still amazed by that. 

They do have a few advantages we don't have in recruiting: a stronger base, lax academics, a track record to sell.  But nothing even close to what those other southern and western programs have.

When Meyer came in, I thought he would upgrade them somewhat, but nothing close to what he's done. 

It sucks for us, being in their division, but it really is kind of amazing.

At least we know it can be done.  I would have never thought so.




October 22nd, 2017 at 5:24 PM ^

Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma and OSU seem to develop young players faster. In part because they recruit well and also they aren't as young as we are across the board. Our frustration is the appearance that our O line and skill positions let alone QB just don't develop as well as the cited schools. We're very young but quite a few of our players seem not to improve and there are even some who are either not seeing the field much or regress. When you add poor play calling at times, watching us can disappoint given we march downfield and fail to penetrate through the red zone else we go three and out. Those other schools sustain drives and score.


October 22nd, 2017 at 9:26 PM ^

What did anyone expect. Lost 14 guys to the NFL, 1 starter returns on D. Even though the recruiting classes were ranked pretty high, I think a lot of recruiting mistakes were made pre-JH. Almost as if the recruiting was done by the 247 composite. We are still paying the price.

Remember the last 10 years and have patience. Expectations are high.


October 22nd, 2017 at 11:38 PM ^

Rewatching a bit of the from last night, usually don't regardless of W or L, but nothing else on.

1. McCray matched up against Barkley several times. He got beat every time, and Barkley actually dropped a few. How does this honestly happen? Gotta think after 1-2 times, you have ANYONE on the field as LB's or secondary on him and not McCray as he's your slowest defender by far. Baffling!!

2. How bad are the passing routes? 4 and 3 and not one guy runs a route less than 15 yards? Never utilize middle of field. Never any screens or short passes to help the line? Ever see any rub routes? Crazy how many sets we do with 0 or 1 WR. I watch some NFL, I don't see NFL teams running that sort of set. We talk this as a pro style offense, but this is way worse.

Honestly after rewatching a bit, can't believe how much we beat ourselves with bad coaching decisions. Tonight rewatching shows me it's a lot more than youth and instead a lot more in not putting your guys in the best position to succeed. Offensively their system and passing game for WR routes is just some of the worst I've ever seen. Yes, lots of youth and not a great QB or line (to put it mildly) but we do them Zero favors.

My two cents. I think more is coaching and system than anything else. I think Harbaugh and crew, especially offensively, need to really look in the mirror rest of this year/off-season with big changes for '18.


October 23rd, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^

Anybody else remeber running RR out of town after a horrible year one and then 2 years of improvement?  Remember when we thought/felt we had the luxury to say "it's year 3, he didn't find a good DC at a cheap price.  Get him out!"  Remember watching an unpridictable offense play a modern scheme?  Remember scoffing at it in years 2 and 3 as not good enough because he wasn't beating OSU?  

Remember requesting the return of manball?  Remember getting in Hoke?  Remember firing him?  Remember getting it again with JH?  Remember thinking he will turn it around immediately?  Remember JH having the same exact 3 year record as RR when he was at Stanford?

Now we want to fire JH and the offensive coaches and replace them with Power Spread saviors, whatever and wherever they are?

Guess what, we are screwed.  We have to hope he can pull it together. We have to accept our current joke status amongst our rivals.  We have to stay the course until it is absolutely clear to every other coach in waiting that Michigan gave the current guys all the time in the world.

Wake up folks.  The revolving coaching door got us to where we are.  I can agree that Drevno may need to go.  That is about it and I'm not even sure about that.  God, have we not learned anything?  RR is now 5-2 in Arizona by the way.  I wonder if they are clamouring to fire him.