OT: New Way to Lose for Lions
Tate scores go ahead TD with 0:08s to go, but is ruled down just shy of goal ine. Because it was reviewed with less than 0:10s remaining in the game, a 10s runoff is in effect, ending the game. Unbelievable. How many different ways can this team lose a game?
September 24th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
i can't even...wtf >.>
September 24th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
Well, this year.... That's one.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
Lions got jobbed
September 24th, 2017 at 4:41 PM ^
No way there was indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field in a game deciding situation.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:01 PM ^
I bet a prosecuter would love them in jury selection.
And then that rule. Is that what the NFL is trying to accomplish with that rule?
September 24th, 2017 at 5:22 PM ^
After Sanu allegedly was credited a TD, this didn't surprise me.
My thing is that Tate didn't seem to establish true possession of the ball until it had crossed the plane of the goal line. Refs should've let the call on the field.
Either way, Lions can't settle for FGs earlier in the game against a high powered offense. Also, someone needs to take Ebron out to pasture and put him out of our misery.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:30 PM ^
Ebron hasn't been a reliable receiver since he was drafted!!!!!!
September 24th, 2017 at 4:42 PM ^
But I heard the spread was that the falcons were favored by 3.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
Nobody loses like the Lions.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
I just didn't see conclusive video evidence he was short of the goal line. It looked like he was already 2-3 inches clear of the front white endzone line where he landed. Stunning call to overturn and even dumber run-off.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:35 PM ^
They were saying his knee touched right away before getting there, but it didn't. If anything it was the side of his leg, which is not a knee. Refs this year have been god-awful in both the NFL and NCAA. Even worse than usual, which is saying something. These ones today were horrible both ways. So many phantom PI/holding calls both ways.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:38 PM ^
it was the correct call.....I applaud the replay crew for having the guts to make the proper call. If these guys were working The Game last year, UofM wins.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:42 PM ^
Freeze frame show it simultaneous. It was at best inconclusive.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^
Its clear and obvious. His knee and entire bottom leg are down well short. Not sure why you guys all refuse to believe this clear and obvious fact. Lions will be fine. relax.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
If you actually look at the feeeze frame your statement will be shown to be the falsehood that it is.
Believe in your myth if you must. But pictures don’t lie.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:56 PM ^
Pause the replay when his knee and leg are down. He is wayyyy short. Stop lying to yourself and living in alternative facts land. SAD !
September 24th, 2017 at 4:59 PM ^
People have done that AND use feeeze frame. They have posted it. You meanwhile keep producing oral flatulence.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:05 PM ^
If I knew how to post a picture I would prove your delusional ass wrong. All my Lions freinds have accepted this as an unfourtunate series of events. But it was ruled exactly correct. Like I said, Lions will be fine ! And as far as who I want to win, I kinda ish root for the Lions but I barely care. I care about former UofM players, and my fantasy team.
September 24th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^
Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
September 24th, 2017 at 7:01 PM ^
my money's on Sal.
September 24th, 2017 at 9:03 PM ^
You come in here spewing this crap, but can't do anything to prove your point... In the NFL, someone has to touch you to be down. Nobody touched him until the ball was well over the goal line. Stoopid, bull shit call.
September 25th, 2017 at 12:19 AM ^
Not sure if serous. The defender clearly touched him on the way down. In the NFL, if you touch someone on the way down they are ruled down by contact. No one has to touch him after that.
Honest question: do you guys really not think he was down? It's seems pretty obvious to me.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:30 PM ^
it was only through pass interference, not being touched by the Falcons player to be 'downed'. If there was no pass interference I think Tate gets into the endzone no problem.The refs botched that too.
Another thing, there were 11 seconds on the clock when Tate was 'touched' and down; 8 seconds were when the clock stopped. They should have reset the clock.
Is it something about Honolulu Blue that screams Washington Generals?
September 24th, 2017 at 5:32 PM ^
I never thought about that. And to answer your final question. Yes, it is something about the Honolulu Blue that screams Washington Generals: Eric Ebron.
September 24th, 2017 at 7:01 PM ^
but he wasn't touched until the ball was over the plane.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:19 PM ^
You are clearly biased, if you see nothing disputable here.
It's not even clear he was "tackled", much less obvious that he was down before the
ball broke the plane. This call is as bad as referees get, and the automatic game over
thing is even worse...
Rob
September 24th, 2017 at 9:02 PM ^
what I couldn't see conclusively is that his lower leg actually touched the turf before breaking the plane. The call on the field was touchdown so given how unclear it is whether he was down or not, how in the world do you overturn it?
Lions got hosed. And I'm not a Lions fan
September 24th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^
I don't think he was down, but the rule is that any part of the body besides the hand or the foot. So the side of the leg would still cause him to be down.
But I didn't see that.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^
by a Falcons' player, which I don't think he was. His knee touched, he was touched by a Falcons' player, but they didn't occur at the same time. The guy the booth talked to should not have given an opinion in the time frame that he did, I don't see how one could carefully give an opinion that fast with something that was kinda important.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:15 PM ^
a Falcon player didn't touch Tate until he started to roll over...and after the ball had clearly crossed/touched the endzone plane
Lions were totally screwed - the offense pass interference (against DET) on the last drive was also ridiculous
September 24th, 2017 at 9:23 PM ^
they made up for that bullshit opi with an equally ridiculous pi call against the falcons cb a play or 2 later. the runoff does piss me off though; the lions didn't get a chance to run a final play because the refs screwed up, which is bullshit
September 24th, 2017 at 10:06 PM ^
agreed, but that make-up (5 yards and a first down) doesn't quite balance taking away first and goal with almost a minute left.
September 25th, 2017 at 12:22 AM ^
He was touched on the way down.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:34 PM ^
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September 24th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
Call themselves the "Detroit Derp."
September 24th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
Getting fucked by the refs/NFL rules is not really new for them. Total bullshit. For one thing, not indisputable evidence that I saw.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
At least give the offense the attempt to snap the ball.
Stupid shit like this is why people are turning away from the league.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:40 PM ^
They should really adjust it so that the rule applies but not if it is going to end the game. B/c that is a bullshit way to end it all. Lions had one more shot. Just give it to them and let the teams play.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^
I'm sure they probably will adjust that rule...after this season, when it can't do us any good. Just like the Calvin Johnson rule, just like the illegal batting call by the Seahawks on Monday night, just like the pass interference no call on Ebron against the Cowboys in the playoffs, just like the Arian Foster "You can't throw a challenge flag on a play that would be automatically reviewed, therefore the touchdown stands" call. Just like the consecutive OPI calls against Eric Ebron last year when it was clear he didn't touch the defender that wound up being the difference between the Lions and Packers in the NFC North.
The Lions are the team that NFL refs learn to call a game on so that the NFL can figure out what not to do for teams they give a shit about.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^
is there such a stupid rule in the first place? How can it do anything other than guarantee an unfair result?
September 24th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^
It's there to be fair. Imagine this: Michigan leads OSU by 4, time is running out, OSU is inside our 5, the clock is running. On third down, JT Barrett plunges into the line, stretches, and is ruthlessly pulled back by Devin Bush a yard shy of the goal line with 5 seconds to go. If called correctly, time runs out before OSU can run another play and Michigan wins.
A ref on the near side rules it a TD. The clock stops. It goes to review.
OSU realizes that the play will be overturned and is already lined up when the call is announced. The ref spots the ball, clock runs on ready for play, OSU snaps the ball before it runs out and scores a TD.
Is that just? Absolutely not.
The runoff exists to prevent this scenario.
For the Lions, the injustice is the overturned call. Not the runoff. The runoff is just bizarre. If Tate were a hard and a half short there is no more time to run a play and no controversy.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:24 PM ^
Ok, so that is a 5 second run off. But why a 10 second run off? Why not 5? Or 15? It's completely arbitrary. 10 seems excessive in a goal line situation.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^
Not completely arbitrary. No doubt based on studies of averaging how quickly a team could line up and get a play off, say in the 6-13 second range, so they rounded it off to ten seconds, just as when they rounded the 25/40 second play clock to a 15 second differential because it took officials an average of 11-12 seconds to spot the ball and set the markers.
Partly that base-10 human bias for numbers divisible by 5- the NBA's 24-second clock (based on what was the average length of an offensive possession at the time)- being the notable exception.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:30 PM ^
Actually, Danny Biasone (owner of the then Syracuse Nationals, today better known as the Philadelphia 76ers) arrived at 24 seconds because he thought the game flowed best with about 60 possessions per team per game. 48 min / (2 teams x 60 possessions) = 24 sec per possession.
September 25th, 2017 at 9:32 AM ^
But the supposed logic behind it is 10 seconds isn't enough to run a play when that's not the case. The Lions did it last year against Minnesota to kick a tying field goal. 5 seconds is not enough time, but 10 seconds is definitely plenty of time to get off another play.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
did the lions have any time outs?
September 24th, 2017 at 4:57 PM ^
They would have called one if they did. I don't think the 10 second runoff applies in that situation.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^
exactly where I was heading. if they have a time out, no worries. but I can see why the rule is there. it sucks, but it's understandable
September 24th, 2017 at 10:25 PM ^
I disagree and I'm not a lions fan. If the call was. If the call was no-TD on the field, they could've spiked the all, albeit, close on timing to set up. But because the refs missed a call they get penalized? Makes no sense. The refs got the call wrong flat out.