OT: Does anyone have a himalayan salt lamp? They sell Michigan ones now

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

Are they cool? I've seen videos and it really looks like something I'd like to have for my place.

I saw this Michigan one and am trying to find a place to buy it.

 

SMart WolveFan

July 30th, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^

At the very least, it is good for skin and can help alleviate allergies, absorbing salt through the skin and lungs is a preferred method as opposed to ingestion.

Some claim that the negative ions released are also good for your health, but that is much more farfetched. Of course, the more I read about the electric universe the more I think there could be a basis to it.

McDoomButt

July 31st, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^

After all, you need to at least have some reason to believe something works before you get funding for research like that. You would get laughed out of any educated person's office for suggesting this...

drjaws

July 30th, 2017 at 5:09 PM ^

you sell salt lamps. Not sure why else you'd be so absolutely sure that they have "health benefits" that have never been scientifically proven. In fact, the only thing that is been scientifically proven is they release a negligible amount of negative ions. So low it is barely measurable. They don't put "salt in the air."

SMart WolveFan

July 30th, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^

I never claimed to be absolutely sure of anything.

It's the scientific dogmatists like you who are so sure you "know". No one ever proved a negative to me, I'm not that gullible. I even called the negative ion affects farfetched.

But, simply because they don't have an apparatus sensitive enough to measure any effect of this "small" amount of - ions, doesn't mean the effect isn't there.

And I said they release "salt" into the air because I'm not a salt lamp salesman and I figured all of that evaporating water had something in it more than just negative ions.

I recommend them because the one I have helped the quality of my families skin when we lived with a well and bathed in some crappy water; plus helped alleviate a dry night time cough my son had when he was a toddler. And before you scream "placebo", my 3year old new nothing about it other than it was a cool night light.

Now let me ask you; why you are so sure they don't?

Charmandar

July 30th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^

jeeze, I have had students with a 3% in my chemistry class have a better handle on basic physical science and logic and reasoning you just displayed in this post. 

1. Any electric field this weak ass 12W CFL will produce isn't even close to your own bodie's negative charge. 

2. Physicists and chemists perform scientific measurements way more accurate and precise every minute of the day than is needed to measure any BS field this stupid lamp produces. 

3. Some ions are sublimated, that is correct, However, just as many are reabsorbed back onto this stupid rock to create an equilbria. 

4. You recommended because you are sorely ignorant on basic physical science and were easily duped by a placebo effect. I guess it would make a nice night light, but anything more is a placebo effect. 

SMart WolveFan

July 30th, 2017 at 8:27 PM ^

Nice condescending intellectualism, teach! 

How often do you let the bitch out in front if your students? Bet it's fun for you to take what they don't know and try to belittle them with it like you are trying here.

Here's the thing smarty-pants, you did a lot of condescending but you didn't prove it was a placebo effect because you can't. And even if you could what's wrong with a placebo if it works?

Here's my hypothesis: The negative ions released by the salt lamp are only "insignificant" on a scale measurable by our current apparatuses; however, based on the infinite scalability of electrical phenomenon,. on a much smaller scale, too small to decern currently, the electric field is amplified along mirco Birkland Currents and interacts directly with our mitochondria to heal our bodies.

 

OK, Einstien, use your logic and reasoning and the 10 year old text books to disprove it.

 

It's in dogmatic clowns like you that the quest for truth dies.

Charmandar

August 1st, 2017 at 3:14 PM ^

1. The fields produced by this rock are easily measured by modern physical measurements. Nice to see you chose to ignore this point, which I made previously. 

2. Your point about Birkland current is complete nonsene. The only thing Birkland currents  (FYI, Birkland currents are the induced currents produce by our planet's magentic poles) affect is the ionosphere. The ionosphere serves its purpose by shielding our planet from solar radiation. It has zero affect on electric fields at the surface of the Earth. Otherwise, we would be unable to broadcast a basic radio signal or hell have any sorts of electromagentic communication. 

3. Mitochondria don't heal your bodies. The purpose of mitochondria is to convert the stored chemical energy in glucose to useable chemical energy in the form of ATP through cellular respiration. 

I proved you are a moron without using a 10 year old textbook. Hell I could have used a 100 year old textbook to prove you are an idiot. The science of mitocondrion has been establish for about a century now, thermodynamics since the 1800's. 

I love that you called me dogmatic since I am an athiest and a biochemist in my prior career before I was an educator. From my personal beliefs, I am excited for new discoveries in science. 

SMart WolveFan

July 30th, 2017 at 9:16 PM ^

You mean what you've learned from textbooks?

 

So it was written so shall it be..........eh?

And the non believers will be silenced by the power of the Almighty Ford....right?

 

The saddest part about it is that honest seekers of truth toiled for centuries to liberate our minds from the dogma of faith which kept us in the dark ages, and yet these assholes today sell out to the dogma of science for nothing more than peer review and tenure. Pathetic. 

And the quest for truth dies a liitle more....

 

The funniest part is that science is like the "new religion" and you dogmatists are kinda like the crazy guy on the corner saying "the end is nigh" only yours says "E=mc2".

 

Don't worry about me though, I'll just keep searching for the truth.

drjaws

July 30th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^

This is simple chemistry and physics. We're talking about heat, ambient humidity and salt. Basic laws of chemistry and thermodynamics. There is literally zero unknown or novel science behind the Himalayan Salt Rock lamp. It is merely a fancy night light with zero proven biological or chemical benefit. You are one of those people who are completely untrained in a field, read some websites, and spout ignorant information like you are the bearer of novel information that everyone is is just "too mainstream to believe." You believe the unproven then use an age-old logical fallacy of "the lack of information means we haven't measured this magical thing I believe in accurately yet" as an actual argument. Most people (scientists, logical people etc) believe things when proven. People like you are why there are peer-reviews in science.

SMart WolveFan

July 30th, 2017 at 10:42 PM ^

Sorry I'm not worshiping your science 

Or maybe your science is using simple concepts and basic laws when more advanced ones are needed.

And yet there have been many incredible things discovered by scientific methods only because someone believed in a magical thing that they worked hard to accurately measure.

Plus, why would I need to believe in something if it's proven? I save my belief for things I cannot prove at the moment. But I'm trying Ringo, real hard.

They created peer review to stop people from hearing opinions? OK that we agree-------

I can do this call night sunshine, my Thoreauvian prose can generate a lot more moronic blathering than your Boolean logic can handle.

Charmandar

August 1st, 2017 at 3:02 PM ^

The science of why these things are complete nonsense has been proven since the 1700's (Laws of Thermodynamics, Gauss' Law, Atomic Theory). Not our fault you are chosing to stick your head in the ground. They created peer review to ensure the integrity of the scientific process. That is the reason the vaccine-autism link was thrown out once other researchers attempted to replicate the original work and disovered it was complete bullshit. Science doesn't care if you believe in it or not. That is the difference between science and religion. 

again, your blathering is nonsensical. 

SMart WolveFan

July 30th, 2017 at 11:06 PM ^

Usually I refrain........... but really? Over a salt lamp? 

And most of the posters had a good chuckle and moved on but there are always those zealots that lose they mind.

I find it ironic how much they sound like men of passion trying to convince me, rather than men of reason trying to prove it to me.

 

And the is btw