USA Today: Play Division 1 football and get a great education at these 10 schools
The geniuses at USA Today have come up with a list of the best schools to play football at and get a "great education" at the same time. Their results are interesting.
http://college.usatoday.com/2017/07/07/best-colleges-football/
To see where Michigan is slotted:
http://www.collegefactual.com/rankings/sports/football-men/division1-al…
I guarantee you THE OSU fans care about it. Polls like this are why my OSU slappy coworkers think their school is just as good as Michigan. This and the fact they are morans.
don't want to sound like a homer, but UM at #20 and OSU #1 who made this list Urban Meyer? OSU is definitely good at football, but to say a combination of football and academics is that much better then UM???? What a joke as well as many other of the schools in the top 10.
The UM degree is very good if you're a general student who got in on your own merits, but not necessairly for football players who get funneled into easy majors in order to stay eligible ...which makes it hard to get a job after football.
And for those that don't agree with that statement, Harbaugh basically said the same thing when he was at Stanford.
I'll give OSU credit for at least trying to give their football players an option if pro-football doesn't work out. Their "real life Wednesdays" are something that should be modeled by more schools.
"And for those that don't agree with that statement, Harbaugh basically said the same thing when he was at Stanford."
And for anyone who is paying attention, it stopped when Harbaugh took the HC job.
From 1998...
"Lots of people with nothing better to do are holding their collective breath in Columbus, Ohio, all because a certain All-American linebacker is taking three summer-school courses that will determine whether he can play college football this season.
Ohio State star Andy Katzenmoyer is tackling golf, music and AIDS awareness, separately of course."
They are just taking two simple lists that have nothing to do with each other, and combining them to get a nonsensical combo-list.
Um, OK.
"Here are the countries with the best quality of life and the best ICBM programs."
Oh look at that, North Korea is in the top five while Sweden is not even in the top 50 . . .
I know where I'm moving.
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Education Ranking 1-25 |
AAU |
Academic Institutions
Top 25-Education and Top 10 Football |
Football Ranking 1-10 |
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28 |
AAU |
1 |
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23 |
AAU |
7 |
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18 |
|
2 |
That list includes Ohio State at #1, and Baylor. FUCKING BAYLOR?!?! That makes that list the biggest fraud-joke since the "moon landing". HAHAHAHAHA...
no way.
and where is the scary clown?
Well, I guess Baylor is great for football players. You can do anything you want with no chance of getting in trouble.....now it's a different story for female students.
Dumbing down America for decades now...
the paper was greeted with hostility--all the punks in SF used to write, "Just like a TV!" in magic marker on their pedestal stands. The idea of the newspaper was to dumb the news down; the editorial stance was conservative; and of course it was in color, not b&w. We used to make fun of the Ann Arbor Snooze by calling it the best five-minute read in town, but you could/can still pretty much read USA Today without pausing as you turned the pages. Not sure they would survive if they weren't offered free at hotels and motels.
lol. this is rich.
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Education Ranking 1-50 |
AAU |
Academic Institutions
Top 50-Education and Top 25 Football |
Football Ranking 1-25 |
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52 |
AAU |
6 |
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52 |
AAU |
3 |
|
|
49 |
AAU |
15 |
|
|
37 |
AAU |
9 |
|
28 |
AAU |
1 |
|
|
52 |
AAU |
16 |
|
|
23 |
AAU |
7 |
|
36 |
AAU |
Georgia Institute of Technology |
23 |
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18 |
|
2 |
Is it just me or is USA Today one of the few publications that can make it seem like a scholarship and a great education are the things you get right after the words, "Tell him what he stands to win, Rod....", followed by some appropriate earworm of a jingle? Their lists cause me to hear all that in my head anyway.
USA Today has a website? I thought they only existed inside of McDonald's.
People actually read USA Today? I thought it was just used by hobos to sleep under, and then as replacement toilet paper for their mid-morning BM, behind a bush in the park...
and outside hotel room doors...
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Education Ranking 1-75 |
AAU |
Academic Institutions
Top 75-Education and Top 25 Football |
Football Ranking 1-25 |
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52 |
AAU |
6 |
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52 |
AAU |
3 |
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69 |
AAU |
19 |
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49 |
AAU |
15 |
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73 |
AAU |
20 |
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37 |
AAU |
9 |
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28 |
AAU |
1 |
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52 |
AAU |
16 |
|
|
23 |
AAU |
7 |
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60 |
|
13 |
||
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69 |
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Virginia Polytechnic |
18 |
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|
36 |
AAU |
Georgia Institute of Technology |
23 |
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62 |
|
22 |
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18 |
|
2 |
dumped into people's Facebook accounts to sway the election. Guess the Ohioans ate it up both times
we're below sparty. and auburn. and goddamned florida state.
literally nobody on earth (including the leadership of those three fine "insititutions") thinks they are anywhere near michigan academically.
Hey hey hey, Myron Rolle begs to differ with the FSU comment.
every school / program has some good students. myron rolle certainly qualifies.
that said, i have a feeling that myron rolle would also agree with my contention that michigan is better academically then florida state.
By looking at the article, it kind of explains that graduation rate and retention rate are factors in higher rating, and they mention reasonable price for education for OSU, which should not even be a factor in judging the quality for athletes who most of which get full scholarships.
Their "sports competitiveness" factor is literally just based on the previous year's W-L number.
This is hilariously bad.
that's amazing. not having Michigan top 5 is laughable, but Stanford at #16 is absolutely absurd.
I just did a cursory search for David Klenda's education as I figured that might help explain these rankings. He's not on LinkedIn. This is ironic because if this article is any indication of his journalistic chops then he might need to create a LinkedIn account soon for his next job search.
If I'm his manager and he brings this article to me for approval I fire him on the spot.
As the resident Stanford hater, even I found that ridiculous.
yep.
Fuck Stanford!
Why is there a resident Stanford hater? Good school, Coach H was there, no scandals aside from the marching band. I don't get it.
I'm surprised MSU isnt in the 3-9 range
USA Today's metric seems to be 1) has had recent success and 2) is anything above a poor educationally. MSU is actually a good school compared to the Baylors and TCUs of the world and has had more success than either in the last 5 years
that, unfortunately, is run by hypocritical Baptists.
I made the mistake of clicking on the link. Lazy journalism at its worst. in their view "great education" seems to be defined as "mediocre or above."
Stanford grads reading this in their Ferraris and/or corner offices are very upset this morning...
They're too busy harassing women at their tech startups to read it.
When you have worked to get both that 4-star ranking and 4-point GPA, you are soooooooooooooooooooooo much better off at MSU than, say, Michigan, Stanford, or Notre Dame. Trust USA Today for all of your 40-year decisions.
so they appear to be going off recent success (judging by Duke's inclusion) and yet they somehow don't have Stanford near the top, but they decided to make their list truly hilarious by including TCU, Baylor, and Georgia Tech
And if that wasn't enough, they didn't include us which makes this doubly hilarious
I can't speak for TCU and Baylor, but Georgia Tech is a GREAT school. It's not in the same class as MIT or Stanford, but that's the elite of the elite.
GaTech is one of the best engineering schools in the country, and probably a top-3 overall school in the South to go along with Duke and UVa. And GaTech football isn't completely awful. Paul Johnson sprinkles in a few great seasons every now and then.
it's the football aspect. They have been decidedly moribund since Paul Johnson got there. He's been averaging 7 or so wins since his first two seasons and are barely playing second fiddle to UGA. I would not put them on this list because the football side is so mediocre
There are more than a few; Duke, UVA, UNC, Vandy, Wake Forest, Emory, Tulane. GT belongs in the discussion, but probably near the bottom of that list.
Besides ND & Duke, I don't think any of these schools would make my top 10.
Hasn't anyone heard of Texas, BC, UC Berkely, UCLA, Wisconsin, Stanford, etc. (I am sure I left some good ones out.)
OSU is a very very good school, but I don't even think it is even in the top 5 in the B1G. (In no particular order, my personal list has NW, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois above them.)
I could see leaving UNC off the list however since they have demonstrated they really don't care about their athletes receiving educations.