Curtis Blackwell Out At MSU
Good sign for all involved that this mess is finally coming to a close. Now we can finally know what the hell was going on.
Not necessarily coming to a close soon, I think just lucky timing for MSU that his contract expires this Wednesday, so they can just not renew it.
This is the interesting part. The investigation has obviously been going on since January, and MSU has extended Blackwell's contract twice (for a month each) throughout the investigation. Probably having to do with not being able to fire a coach while he's under investigation or something.
So the fact that they've now decided not to renew him again for another month might actually have something to do with the investigation coming to a close, and MSU feeling like they have enough reason to not renew his contract. I guess time will tell.
All that being said, I'd like to see the correct resolution to this entire incident, whatever it may be, very soon for all parties involved. Seems like this has been going on for a while now.
I'm not so sure it's that they couldn't fire him as it is that they wanted some leverage for his continued cooperation. If he's no longer employed, he can pretty much just thumb his nose at their requests or demands for information.
The Title IX investigation is complete His contract was extended monthly twice (maybe three times) - so suspended with pay, while it happened.
Interesting point. I know the Title IX investigation was completed and found that the 3 accused players violated university policy, but I didn't see anything about Blackwell. One would think that if this move is based on the findings from that investigation, which we know that the players were also found to be in violation of university policy, and was enough to fire/release/not renew Blackwell, that doesn't bode well for the players involved.
This is excellent analysis.
Yes, good point. I'd forgotten that they already extended it twice. Maybe like Alum96 said, now that the Title IX investigation is over they can safely cut him loose. Or maybe something can come of this soon enough.
Crazy thing about contracts are no reason is needed to not renew it. Unless they were planning on keeping him there was no reason to keep renewing his contract on a month to month basis.
This is the first step in priming the spin machine.
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1. The timing of this is interesting. From an institutional standpoint, you don't want to let someone go while still investigating, as that opens you up to an employment/retaliation suit from Blackwell. So maybe this means that investigation is coming to a close, OR they have found definitive wrongdoing by him.
2. This is no doubt a huge huge loss for them.
I can't imagine there would be grounds for a lawsuit for not renewing his contract. Especially in an at-will state.
But IANAL, as they say.
"IANAL"? Is this code for "I am into butt stuff"???
Only in certain circles
I just looked that up. I'll save everybody else the trouble. It means, "I am not a lawyer and I am into butt stuff."
apple product for butt stuff
Maybe a new hands free device for people that talk out their asses?
Anal lemons
"The contract is over and we are moving in another direction."
You can get sued for anything, but not all lawsuits are legit. I don't see how he can file a complaint. At best, he will air some dirty laudry!
Kind of last thing Sparty needs at this point is any sort of distraction though...
If there was any legitimacy to it, why invite it...I mean, it's not like they have multple investigations and the whole Nassar investigation also going on...
I have practiced very minimally in employment law, but retaliation is the most frequently used cause of action in employment cases. It may make sense for a large university to hold back from letting him go until the end of an investigation to avoid that. Just thinking out loud here.
So from what I know Blackwell was suspended and is now being fired for telling three rapists to destroy evidence. Its seems real simple lady prosecutor, ask Blackwell what the three msu football players told him they did and what he told them to do. To me for Blackwell to get fired there has to be some reason. I highly doubt he is dumb enough to perjure himself. Am I missing something or should there be someone charged in this case. If nobody did anything then why is Blackwell suspended then fired. Blackwell holds the key. The case is what it is and everyone knows what happenned. One player was having sex with a girl why some other player filmed it and another forced his way into it which she said no as player two continued to film the other two continued to have sex with her against her will. They went to Blackwell and he told them to get rid of the video. Unless you believe they suspended and then fired Blackwell for no reason. I really dont see how Blackwell is fired and no charges are brought against the three players. Blackwell did not rape anyone, but he sure as hell does no who did what lady prosecutor.
is not the same as firing. No justification is required, although it wouldn't be that tough to come up with at least 3 reasons, possibly even 9.
What you're saying makes sense to me, but there's a reason they've extended his contract a month at a time for multiple months in a row as the investigation was ongoing, and there's also got to be a reason they've decided that this time they're not going to extend it another month. Either the investigation is coming to an end and they have enough facts to feel good about letting him go, or something else has changed.
Valid point. Based on what we know now, the only investigation that's been completed thus far is the Title IX investigation, which found that the three players were in violation of university policy. One would assume that if that investigation was enough to not bring Blackwell back, it's probably not a great sign for the players involved.
This doesn't open MSU up to a retaliation suit at all - his contract expired and they didn't renew. Fortunate timing for MSU in that regard. Also, this doesn't necessarily mean anything about the investigation coming to a close. That said, he was an important part of his staff and I would almost guarantee they'd be renewing his contract if not for this investigation.
His contract is expiring. You don't really need grounds for failure to renew a contract.
After seeing the PSU coach who came forward get blacklisted from all coaching, again for standing up against the pedo situation, I don't see any coach airing laundry if they want to keep in the coaching world. It's a bad lesson that was learned out of the PSU scandal.
You sure it didn't have anything to do with that coach being in the same room while a child was raped and he did nothing to stop it. He didn't stand up to a damn thing.
Not that I disagree with you or know more than anyone else, but if this is the case, why would they have been extending his contract for a month at a time since March?
I have never heard of this guy.
First domino. Who's next?
MSU fired long-time head coach Miguel Domino?! Wow, must be some crazy stuff about to drop.
Not a top performer but he was always hot and ready to come off the bench.
don't think there is going to be any other dominos. There is no reason why the criminal investigation would not be completed at this point. Either they bring the kids back to the team and put them on a double-extra probation and hope they don't do anything else the shame the school or they don't allow them back on the team and move forward.
Even in a post-Sandusky world, it appears as though Michigan State has orchestrated at least a partial coverup here (certainly not to a Sandusky degree), and I think they are hoping that nobody will care once the football starts. Regardless, that police report will be public at some point and people will be able to judge for themselves whether the response is/was appropriate.
Looks like they took Cris Carter's advice
Michigan State will not renew assistant Curtis Blackwell's contract https://t.co/6EQWKuszl7
— Detroit Free Press (@freep) May 30, 2017
The right move by MSU, obviously.