Ryan Hayes Commits To Michigan
Michigan's picked up their second in-state tackle in a few days here:
Traverse City (Mich.) West Top247 offensive tackle/tight end Ryan Hayes tells 247Sports he has committed to Michigan.
Hayes also strongly considered opportunities from Notre Dame and Michigan State among others.
"It just felt right from my first visit and I just loved everything about it there," Hayes added.
Like Jalen Mayfield, Hayes is a Greg Frey special delivery: an athletic frame to heap muscle on until 300 pounds is achieved and you've unlocked Taylor Lewan 2.0. Hayes is the #3 player in the state on the composite and #205 player overall; he could be upwardly mobile on those in-state rankings since Marquan McCall just told Land of Ten that his Kentucky commitment was more or less because everyone else stopped calling.
Hayes is a four-star on three sites, with Rivals currently lagging. Ace will have a hello post in the near future.
Someone cook some ribs for that kid. Just make sure it's a permissible benefit.
He has the frame to grow into. The suggestion is that he could also play TE, but I have no idea what his hands are like, besides large
Greg Frey: sorry for the correction
does this end our pursuit of Daniel Faalele? I really wanted to see him in this class.
Agree, that kid is a mountain. Kind of risk/reward player that is right in Harbaugh's wheel house. I hope he stays on the board.
Naw, when people say "there's no room for him" they don't mean in the class, just, like, on elevators and the Bursley Baits bus, etc.
Somebody say my name?
We said Bursley Baits bus, but that's not important right now.
And don't call me Somebody.
Somebody O_O
but I heard he's a heavy Georgia lean atm. Also, the guy is a bigger boom/bust player than Milton. I mean, he's as raw as they come. If he wasn't so massive and so agile while being so massive he'd be a NR-2*. His technique at this moment is junior high level. Room will depend more on his Sr year play.
I'm guessing Michigan will take one more lineman in this class by the time NSD rolls around.
Does anyone else think he's built more like Bunting than Lewan? Do they really think he's going to get to 300 pounds?
I'm not saying it's impossible, and it's always possible that is a really bad picture, but he doesn't look like he has the same type of frame as your normal left tackle.
Not at all. Bunting was scronny as a TE recruit that had to put a lot of weight on. Hayes is already TE size and hopefully can get that T weight.
Mayfield is 6'5 255 and Hayes is 6'7 252. essentially the same. they should easily be able to put on 30+ pounds between now and the time they start.
I just realized I wasn't completely clear. I know they can put on the weight. It was more about the way he's built. He doesn't look all that broad across the shoulders like you generally expect from a tackle. Again, it could be from the photo composition and the lack of anything to give a sense of scale. It's just that looking at his shoulders and what you can see of his arms, he doesn't really look like a large human being. He looks like a basketball player.
Maybe the better comparision would be that he looks more like Donnal than Teske or Davis.
I mean, he has to carry the weight somewhere, if it's not in his shoulders is it lower body like LTT was? I haven't really analyzed photos of his body. ;)
People gain weight and muscle at different rates. There are two genetic predispositions to muscle to consider. One is the amount of muscle people just naturally have without doing anything. Two is how quickly they adapt to resistance training by gaining muscle. The two are sometimes, but not always correlated. Ryan does not seem naturally gifted with the former, but we don't yet know about the latter. A guy like O'Maury Samuels is very gifted with the former, but we don't know yet about the latter. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of pictures online of Ryan so it's hard to say, plus it's unlikely he's been in a consistent structured resistance training program and/or nutrition program.
that sounds familiar. in HS I was 6'1 and 165 lb. no matter how much time I spent in the weight room I never had gains. even into college, not until my junior year did I gain weight (the bad kind).
The research on adaptations to resistance training show huge discrepancies between those that respond quickly with muscular adaptations to resistance training and those that don't. Some research even shows reductions in muscle mass and strength with resistance training. It really is the haves and the have nots. And, some don't look like anything special until they start training and then they blow up. You just never know until you start training. But, at least the good thing about that is that muscularity and raw strength like bench press or squat max, neither are good indicators of sports success.
it is interesting seeing some kids just fail on a B1G level. They just don't want it enough. Things happen.
Always an uplifting post from MGoStrength.
Mayfield is allready pushing 270 from what I have heard. Both him and hayes will come into college over 270 pounds. Redshirt a year at least, nutrition and s and c program. Take a picture know because they will never look like that again and neither one of them is ever going to play TE. These kids are both projections because of athletic ability. What everyone has to look at is how high Hayes is allready ranked without ever playing tackle in high school. I bet he plays left tackle this year exclusively and if he dominates his ranking will skyrocket that I an sure of.
Redshirts
Lewan was listed at 270ish as a HS Senior and I think someone gifted him a few pounds.. Hayes has a year to eat and work out. The rest is up to the staff, his work ethic and genetics. Hopefully the pic doesn't compress vertically.
LOL wow never seen that. You've made me a believer
Roh looks like he could clobber Lewan in that pic. Not so much now (not an insult to Roh).
Was a big high school wide receiver who was rather thin for the TE position coming in. Both Hayes and Mayfield will be huge in 2 years which is about the time they start competing for the 2 deep.
This is the type of left tackle you want. I know people are enamored with the likes of Chuck Filiaga, but Filiaga is top-heavy and not a great athlete all-around. He might be able to play LT, but generally, I think you want to get good athletes at left tackle rather than big bodies.
Despite the objections of some, eating and lifting will almost always do the trick. Especially when you're already 250+ pounds.
Filiaga may turn out to be an outstanding OG...we'll see if he is quick enough to playon the outside in space.
Right Tackle
The distinction between right and left tackle isn't really that big anymore. And against teams like OSU who can put great ends on both sides, that distinction is practically non-existent. Need tremendous pass blocking from both tackles in those cases. Filiaga is too slow, needs to play on the inside.
At least for this offense, LT and RT are different positions because the QB will drop back, which means there's a blind side. That means the LT is going to be the best pass-protecting lineman on the team, sacrificing run blocking if necessary. What OSU rolls out doesn't matter to the formation because you can see a strongside rush coming. That's a very conventional LT vs. RT difference.
There's no distinction in the shotgun offense, sure, but I don't see us turning zone read into our bread-and-butter with Speight or Peters, though this guy may take a few years to develop at which point anything goes.
I mean yeah, it's still there to some degree, but that degree is getting less and less. For example, even if you can see a strong side rush coming you still need guys who can stop a strong side rush in pass pro.
My point is, Filiaga doesn't seem like a tackle to me, either at left or right, I think his lack of foot speed would kill him at tackle. Hope I'm wrong. Stueber is probably your better bet to play RT this year amongst freshman OL.
Would you agree that Drevnos tackle recruiting was underwhelming?
No. They just signed their second full class. Drev's recruits were true freshman last season and one of them started.
That true freshman started at guard...and looks like he'll probably be a guard again as a sophomore. He's not exactly a tally in the "tackle" column, at least not yet.
Yes.
Don't get confused with proportions here.....he is already 255 so it's an increase of only 17%, or 45lbs. That is nothing with a big frame.
It's not like a 100lb person going to 117, for they are small framed. It'll be a piece of cake, will take 2 years.
No. Not at all.
Jake Fisher, IMO.
Not sure if I can trust a post that doesn't start with "Hello"...
hopefully without the douchebaggery
Nasty streak. He's a top NFL tackle for a reason.
Cheap shots count as a nasty streak.
Cheap shots are free.
And sometimes necessary. As long as you are not racking up fifteen yarders. Pick eleven in the nfl draft for a reason for sure. I want a whole line of lewans lining up against osu. Make no mistake these are the types of lineman who will be mannning UM offensive line going forward.
Stop it. Being nasty and uncalled cheap shots are NOT why Lewan was a top pick. Being good at football is the reason. The rest is just being a goon. Kyle Kalis had plenty of NASTY and cheap shot in him. Someone tell me where he went in the draft. Don't worry, I'll wait...
Lewan was very unpopular around here. It's probably alright to acknowledge that he was a great player and kinda sucked at some of the human niceties. . .
Plenty of guys have a nasty streak without because a douchebag.
They do NOT go hand and hand like your comment suggests.
or lack there of, by the time he left but I wished we could have found another tackel as good as him blocking on the football field and I would say we are still looking for his equal. One other thing, Taylor has been getting more than his share of good publicity recently I assume he is getting more mature as he ages. Giving his jersey and autographed footballs away gives me hope he can fly the maize and blue with pride and not shame. I will wish him nothing but the best as he matures into a Michigan man we all can be proud of.
or lack there of, by the time he left but I wished we could have found another tackel as good as him blocking on the football field and I would say we are still looking for his equal. One other thing, Taylor has been getting more than his share of good publicity recently I assume he is getting more mature as he ages. Giving his jersey and autographed footballs away gives me hope he can fly the maize and blue with pride and not shame. I will wish him nothing but the best as he matures into a Michigan man we all can be proud of.
Where do you hail from MGoDiscGolfer?
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