What's the best formula for beating Michigan?
I only started this thread in a semi circle-jerking manner, but we just beat two good, talented teams that are completely different in play style.
OSU was a fast paced, 3 point shooting, out score you team. Louisville is a slower paced, smother you on defense, out rebound/big man you type team. We managed to beat both in 3 days, granted both in close games.
The rest of the way, what type of play stayle do you think Michigan would struggle with the most? One of the two we just played, something in the middle, or an entirely different type of team?
Crash the glass, switch nothing, hope we miss the threes off of screens.
Speed, rebound, and get Mo/Derrick in foul trouble.
Switching nothing is a great way for our bigs to get open threes or open rolls to the basket. Beilein's offense is nearly unguardable if h has bugs that can shoot
Hire Ted Valentine. The only way to beat us.
And thread.
Hire refs who meet at least one of the following qualifications:
- Are from ohio
- Fans of THEE ohio
- Are in the ohio sports hall of fame
- Who own lots of coolers
Tear all of their ACL's
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Pay the refs more.
Well Louisville held us to 6 threes made, I would've never thought we could beat Louisville that way, guess I was wrong
With DJ and MO playing at an elite level the answer is easy......you can only hope to contain them.
Nice try Dana! I see you.
The formula is what it's always been, take away threes and beat us up on the glass. This is exactly what Louisville did for much of the game. We were able to come back because we limited Louisville to only 2 offensive rebounds over the last 13 minutes or so.
March 20th, 2017 at 12:12 AM ^
Basically, what Wisconsin's been doing for the last decade. There's a reason that's been a tough matchup.
play them in early January
Right now this is one dangerous team. Take away one weapon, and they'll find another.
One could say get them in foul trouble, but Wagner's really the only candidate for that - Michigan just doesn't commit many fouls, absent Minnesota game-level officiating.
Which we had today for a half. Thankfully they settled down in the second half and called what was actually happening, not what they anticipated would happen.
Swap me and my boys in for the players; let my wife coach as she stares at Facebook 24/7.
We have a strict "no facebook" policy in our house, I'd encourage you to do the same. Facebook is the debil.
Unfortunately, I know the pecking order in our house. I'll get thrown out before she gets rid of Facebook. I'm also definitely below the Nutra Ninja, too.
and it might not come through in cyberspace, but i mean that in an empathetic way, not condescending or finger-waving. time to go to the foundations of the household and start work.
To a long marriage ...yes dear
Hookers, blow, and paying refs. Try something else
Go inside over and over and over with a talented big man. Have people to kick out to for three when help comes. DJ and Wagner have been excellent down low, but they are still limited.
This is Purdue. Who we're 2-0 against.
Though I worry about needing to beat them again when they take out Kansas.
That is the one team I don't want to see again. More so than even Kansas.
I don't think Purdue wants any part of us, either.
Addendum: You have to run us off the 3 point line like Louisville did. If Louisville had a big man who was highly talented on offense, we would have been in trouble.
That said, your point is well taken. This team is playing well.
Purdue has plodding bigs who we can take advantage of in pick and rolls and pops. We can force a team like that to downsize to have a shot of slowing our offense, taking away their advantage. A team with more athletic bigs can take some of that away, which is what Louisville did.
It really is about controlling the glass for us. Many of our losses came from getting annihilated on the glass. As we saw today, even a great defensive team is unlikely to match our offensive efficiency straight up. A team that can't make up some of that ground with rebounding doesn't have much of a change.
March 20th, 2017 at 12:15 AM ^
...but Gonzaga worries me. I don't know if "athletic" is the right word for their bigs but "big" isn't the right word either.
It's hard to beat a team three times. I hope we don't play them again. I want Kansas.
If we're playing a regular D, we win with how in sync we are. Beilein has done a masterful job game planning for raining 3's or feeding the bigs. What a matchup nightmare when both Wagner and Wilson are in.
Well Louisville held us to 6 threes made, I would've never thought we could beat Louisville that way, guess I was wrong
We beat Louisville in the paint. Wrap your head around that.
There isn't a team that can stop Wagner and Wilson when they are getting to the rim. Actually, they should've and could've had the ball way more. Considering that this is the toughest team defensively that they will face and they defended the toughest offensive opponent they will face, execution is all they need. All they need to do offensively is get those to the ball and open up the outside.
This is what makes no sense to me. I have no idea how we did that. I'm damn happy about it though...
March 20th, 2017 at 12:16 AM ^
...but Louisville's bigs are terrible individual defenders. That's been on display all year.
Going by the first half...
Also it depends on what kind of team you have. Lville played it right: matchup man to man, play the arc hard, and make Moe beat your endless bigs inside while crashing the boards and hoping to put M's bigs on the bench.
Fantastic.
Hope their plane stays in the hanger.
That's the only thing I can think of. Be more athletic and be able to score.
If Wagner and Wilson both get into foul trouble, that's a huge problem. Can't do without Walton for long stretches either. Otherwise, crash the boards and pray that we miss shots.
it might take nukes.
...play 6 on 5.
8 on 5
in the Big Ten. But the team that would give them the most trouble is a team like them, which can score and play the way they do, shoot well and rebound offensively better while defending the perimeter.
Teams that can score with multiple players in multiple ways are hard to stop.
In football, lights-out D can slow down any offense, in basketball great scorers are gonna score.
Michigan has 6 guys who can light it up. That's really hard to stop.
Not only that, but we protect the ball well and can shoot FT's - critical in close games, as we've seen.
Finally, Coach B is a wonderful tournament coach. He wins the XO battle almost every time.
Surprised he beat Pitino so badly. Could not believe they kept switching.
But he is a great coach. And I wouldn't say Coach B beat him soundly. After seeing Louisville play, I'm pretty impressed they have the record they do.
I said previously Michigan is the college version Golden State Warriors. But that's not exactly right. They are a damn chamelion of a team, one of the best UM has ever produced. This coming from a guy who thought Coach B should be fired two months ago.
Unless multiple things go wrong, you just cannot beat UM. And that has played out the last 6-7 weeks