What, No Spartanfreude Thread???
Solid recovery there at the end.
Very few have done it better than Bert Blyleven though....
"Oh, we're live? "
After his partner drops a couple F bombs lol
Deadpan response and just moved along. Awesome
After what happened to us earlier this week.............no thanks.
"Does MSU have more bad luck losses thread"
I did enjoy Izzo's tantrum.
They are in the tourney so it doesn't really matter that much to me. Not like they lost to a 15 seed... again!
If they lose their next game they'll be 18-14 with their rpi dropping. That's not a sure thing.
I'd love to think they'd sweat it, but unless there are a ton of upsets in conference tourneys there are 7-8 teams between them and the wrong side of the bubble, and to their credit they've lost the last 2 in the last couple of seconds. They are a perfectly fine team this year, and the committee will probably see that.
Not to thread jack, but in the spirit of SPARTY NO, McDowell is making waves at the combine. From Jon Ledyard:
"Malik McDowell going off script, saying coaches eventually conformed to his style bc they couldnt change/improve him, says he cld play safety"
Biggest interview of your life, and you tell them you are basically uncoachable. LOL Dantonio's locker room was a bigger mess than we thought.
Wait, so you are telling me he wasn't one of their character guys?
Sounds like the kind of kid who should have listened to his mother more.
Prolly dodged a bullet on that recruitment. I remember how pissed I was that he went to state. We ended up with like 6 guys that will get drafted from our line without him.
I think Malik would have been a much better player and much better man playing for Harbaugh and Mattison.
He would have had to grow up and work for playing time. The competition would have been good.
It cost him money going to MSU
Pro teams don't normally spend big money on an idiot.
Post your exceptions here..
Terrelle Pryor.
Johnny Football.
He must have missed the Charles Rogers draft. Uh Ndamakong Suh much?
Character is pretty far down the list for the NFL. Being an idiot doesn't even show up on the list.
like Jabril is doing.
douche bags everyday for the last 3 years.
He should just drop out of the pros, kick some people in the nuts, shoot himself in the thigh or sexually assault someone and finish his descent into a full Sparty pro career.
Your comment was kinda funny. Your username and pic are in poor taste and really fucking old.
Turns out that Spartan goonery being the key factor in his recruitment was a giant red flag after all...
I feel like he's trying to make a positive statement but, as seems to be the case with him, it comes across as a huge negative.
Besides even with that loss, MSU is still in the tournament.
So let's say they have a first round exit from the BTT. Are you saying they are 100%, absolutely, without a doubt in the tournament at 18-14?
Yes, have you seen how weak the bubble is this year? Vandy is in at 17-14
but probably 99 percent and change. There would have to be chaos in the conference tourneys with a bunch of bid stealers for MSU not to make it. They played a very difficult schedule and won...a few of them. That will almost always be enough for the committee. And I don't mind the reward for playing tough schedules if it incentivizes more teams to play good non-conference games.
That they were in position to win at Maryland is actually better than they were expected to do, so this outcome gets a shrug from me.
They beat Witchita State in the Bahamas and lost to Northeastern at home in the nonconference. They beat no one else of note outside of the conference.
Yeah but they have a ton of quality losses and the Committee loves RPI. And you know who is the head of the Committee?
I am fully aware.
Sparty has always loved these in football and basketball.
But I believe, if you keep losing to quality opponents, you're not a quality team
The Washington Generals beg to differ.
They're going to get in on prestige alone.
If needing to win more than one game against a tourney team in the non-conference was necessary to get into the field, they'd be out. But it's not. Look at the other bubble teams if you want to see some more suspect resumes. I pointed out that they only won a few of the tough games they played, but that's enough when 68 teams get in.
They beat WSU, Minn (twice), NW, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Their RPI is good enough and their SOS is what the committee fawns over. They'll be in the tournament barring something crazy.
I would LOVE to be wrong, of course.
They played a very difficult schedule and won NONE of the games that made it difficult schedule. If losing to good teams is what gets you in, there are A LOT of bad teams who should be dancing in March
It gets you in if you've been to the Final 4 as many times—seven—as Izzo has. While it's not impossible that MSU doesn't get in, the likelihood that a guy who's already in the Naismith doesn't get his team in is so low that schadenfreude at this point is jizzing in your shorts.
The only thing that may have changed in your hypothetical scenario is maybe they have to play in the play-in games on Tuesday. Most people have Vanderbilt in at 17-14. MSU is in.
Is Iowa in if they beat PSU tomorrow? Same overall and conference record as MSU. They split there head to head match ups with MSU. They have an OOC win against Iowa State and conference wins against Purdue, Wisconsin and Maryland.
Possibly, but Iowa does not affect MSU. Iowa getting in would probably mean another conference would lose a bid or there would be a lack of conference tournament upsets.
Look at Bracket Matrix just to see the buffer MSU has from being left out:
My point is, I don't think everyone is assuming Iowa is in so I'm not sure why the assumption is MSU would be in.
Their conf and overall records would be the same, like you said. You're incorrect that they split. They only played once and MSU won by 11. MSU played a much more difficult schedule so their same number of losses were to better teams. Iowa's worst loss (Nebraska Omaha) is worse than MSU's loss to Northeastern. Iowa lost to Memphis on a neutral floor, MSU won a comparable game against St. John's. MSU has two other top 100 RPI wins in non-conference.
That's why MSU is a top 50 RPI and Iowa will still be in the 70s. And with these two teams, RPI is pretty much spot on. MSU is 51 in kenpom; Iowa is 68th.
Iowa could make up ground in the BTT but even if they win tomorrow, they'll still be way behind. Their resumes aren't close. That's why MSU is in and Iowa has a lot of work left to do.
I'm not a big fan of the "they lost the games but played good teams" argument. If you lose 14-15 games in a season, I just don't think you are that great of a team even if you lost to all of the top 15 teams. At that point I think the committee should give mid major teams who won 23-24 games a chance, even if the SoS is not as good.
Correct, Leaders and Best.
Their AD is the head of the selection committee. Have your seen their easy tournament draws in the last 4 years since he's been on the committee (Virignia the 1 and 2 seed in their pod back to back years)?
They would get in the tourney with a losing overall record (No sarcasm).
You know, doesn't he have more pressing issues to deal with right now than serve on the selection committee?
January, February, 0-2, April.
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These happen 3-9 times a month. Sometimes we just need a breather.