OT: Duke Alum - Kyrie Irving and Sparty Alum - Draymond Green Believe Earth is Flat

Submitted by VicTorious1 on February 19th, 2017 at 7:22 AM

It appears Kyrie Irving and Draymond Green are flat earthers. FYI, the Earth is round.

Per the initial podcast where Kyrie unleashes this foolishness:

 

“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. “It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.”

 

While serial ball-kicker Draymond doesn't proclaim that the Earth is flat, he's definitely not a believer in a round earth:

 

“Who’s to say that picture is telling the truth? I can make a round picture with my iPhone today, with the panorama camera and make it look round."

 

I hope Kyrie is trolling, but based on his follow up comments he appears to really believe this stuff. Draymond is a Sparty, so not much surprise there.

Links to the various stories:

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kyrie-irving-flat-earth-draymond-gre…

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/02/18/draymond-green-kyrie-irving-…

Comments

MGoneBlue

February 19th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^

But the mercury involved is broken down into ethylmercury, which is much more readily expelled from the body than the methylmercury we get from eating contaminated seafood. The vaccine doses are also a few thousandths of a milliliter. Using concentration is misleading when the dosages are so small in comparison to other potential sources of mercury such as a 400 mL glass of tap water or 250g serving of tuna.

We now return to breathlessly over-analyzing anything tangentially related to Michigan sports (like this apparently.)

jabberwock

February 19th, 2017 at 9:13 AM ^

of using a fucking smartphone to deny basic science is hilariously sad.

I could see it if he was rocking one of those Fred Flintstone shell/horn phones though.

bronxblue

February 19th, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^

Draymond Green has a college degree. That alone should terrify people.

These flat earth people always make me laugh because it always feels like they are trying to be clever and failing. Like, I can see how someone might argue about evolution or space travel, as stupid as those arguments are, because those are relatively complex topics that require some nuance. But the world is a globe, and at some point in their lives they were taught this and believed it. So somewhere, later on in life, they had to take a fundamental rule of existence on this planet and replace it with this idea. That's insane to me, as there isn't some social or political stigma to thinking the world is round that would pressure you to change your mind.

dieseljr32

February 19th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^

I think these guys are doing something bigger than "the Earth is flat." Like some sort of weird social experiment. I could be wrong, but their brashness suggests they want you to challenge them and not actually believe them.

Sopwith

February 19th, 2017 at 9:48 AM ^

so we probably don't want to discuss too much, especially since it distracts from the real conspiracy:

Stevie Wonder can see. You're not fooling anyone, Stevie.

Mpfnfu Ford

February 19th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^

All grow a pair and start behaving responsibly, this shit will continue. They want to be "the new way people exchange ideas and learn about the world around them" and displace traditional media, but they have no desire to spend the money to fact check and weed out insane shit.

I mean for Christ's sake, these companies won't even move their ass to censor ISIS and violent White Supremecists from spreading their propaganda on their platforms, let alone lift a finger to make sure they're not platforms to spread blatantly insane anti-science that makes the population dumber. They just don't care, they've got a revenue target to hit. 

SalvatoreQuattro

February 19th, 2017 at 10:59 AM ^

The ideas that drive those ideologies have been in existence for many decades and even centuries.

The most famous example is the "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" a famous antisemitic invention of Tsarisr Russia's secret police that purportedly showed the minutes of a meeting of a cabal of Jewish leaders about how they were to rule the world.

People believed it and some still do over a century after it's publication. The Turner Diaries and Mein Kampf are also still potent sources of propaganda for the far right. All of these are largely passed in book form.

Then you have films which are the most powerful type of propaganda. These too can and are passed over the Internet in places where Facebook, Google, and others do not tread.

The problem is not social media, but the very openness of the internet. Certainly social media is a good conduit for the expression n of opinion, but the meat of the ideologies are passed on through file sharing and deep internet sites. That is where the actual sharing among hate groups is occurring. Social media is too obvious and too easy for the law to track.

Mpfnfu Ford

February 19th, 2017 at 7:34 PM ^

It's not "the internet," one big blob mass in 2017. Some websites have managed to carve out a place as mainstream outlets that rise above the fray and are given more credence by the general public than others. No, of course we'll never be able to stop some guy with a blog spot from saying some crazy shit.

But websites like Youtube and Facebook that have entered into the mainstream media absolutely have a responsibility to be gate keepers and keep from giving destructive nonsense the benefit of their brand and exposure. 

Here's an example: let's say 12 years ago Brian had run a story about how it was a done deal that Lloyd Carr was stepping down, taking the AD job and that DeBord was being promoted to HC. It would have generated some hits sure, but the fallout from Some Guy With a Blog saying something nutty and wrong in 2005 would have been minimal.

If Brian today ran a story about Harbaugh leaving to take the the Chargers job, it would result in the Michigan AD having to make a statement and it would be a giant mess. MGoBlog is not just "Some guy's blog" in 2017, it's considered an important source of news and opinion on Michigan athletics, And take this sites standing and multiply by 10 to get to where Facebook and Youtube are now.

Dorothy_ Mantooth

February 19th, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^

"Nothing makes a man suspect much, more than to know little."

So 4 centuries ago, Bacon appropriately offered that conspiracy theories are one way small minds deal with complex issues...and thus, occupy the portion of those small minds that could identify the facts or solutions.

The twin-edged sword of access to the internet.

Sac Fly

February 19th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^

All of these people believe this shit because they see it in memes and don't bother to research themselves.

It's not just wrong but it's dangerous. Some kid might grow up believing that the earth is flat because his favorite athlete or music artist said it. As a person of influence you have a responsibility not to do shit like this.

I had two friends jump on board that whole "cancer is a scam" meme and they both tried to cure very treatable forms of cancer with healthy eating, positive thought and copious amounts of marijuana. They died.

Maynard

February 19th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^

I have a friend who had two sick kids and was trying to treat them with oils. I lit her up. I basically said get your head out of your ass and get these kids to a medical facility or I will call the authorities and have someone else do it. One of them almost died and the crazy part is that it only changed her thinking on it for a short time. She has since reverted back to this line of thinking, that almost everything can be treated outside of the system and that the medical community is some nefarious scam force to be avoided. It's like a mental deficiency with some people.

Sopwith

February 19th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^

if he had sought traditional medical intervention instead of trying to treat his own pancreatic cancer with veggie smoothies for a couple of years. That's not an exaggeration. What I'm saying is, even genius, visionary people have weird blind spots on exactly this issue.