OT: Duke Alum - Kyrie Irving and Sparty Alum - Draymond Green Believe Earth is Flat

Submitted by VicTorious1 on February 19th, 2017 at 7:22 AM

It appears Kyrie Irving and Draymond Green are flat earthers. FYI, the Earth is round.

Per the initial podcast where Kyrie unleashes this foolishness:


“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. “It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.”


While serial ball-kicker Draymond doesn't proclaim that the Earth is flat, he's definitely not a believer in a round earth:


“Who’s to say that picture is telling the truth? I can make a round picture with my iPhone today, with the panorama camera and make it look round."


I hope Kyrie is trolling, but based on his follow up comments he appears to really believe this stuff. Draymond is a Sparty, so not much surprise there.

Links to the various stories:





February 19th, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^

People haven't suddenly become tolerant of things that are wrong. That's not a thing that just accidentally happened. What happened is that corporate, for-profit news institutions turned into 24-7 propaganda machines, and in the interest of attracting the ratings of a particular propaganda machine, other, better for-profit news institutions copied their style of reporting, which basically involves arguing loudly and poorly on the air for hours at a time over whether or not basic facts are true. 


This isn't an accident. It's not something that just happened with no precusor. It's an intentional effort by people who have a monetary interest in making sure that most American people don't have a solid concept of what the facts of their existence are intentionally designing and propagating media which reinforces the idea that all facts are open for debate by people, no matter how unqualified, and that if a fact doesn't fit the world you want to live in, you're free to seek out another fact which cancels it out. 


February 19th, 2017 at 11:04 AM ^

This is so far beyond corporations. Stupid and ignorant people are as natural occurring as trees and flowers.

Blaming corporations might make the radical in you feel better, but it is incorrect. Corporations did not create these people. Rather, they are pandering to them as they pander to any and all potential customer.

These people have been in existence for many millennia.


February 19th, 2017 at 10:49 AM ^

Young earth creationism isn't a religious thing, it's a political thing. I know that sounds weird, but remember that the vast majority of Christians don't believe in YEC - it's a pretty niche belief that's only espoused by politically conservative Christians in the United States, and the politically conservative part of that conversation is the specific bit.


February 19th, 2017 at 12:33 PM ^

I consider myself a politically conservative Christian. I don't believe in Young Earth Creationism any more than I believe in the Tooth Fairy.

I agree with the sentiment that conspiracy theories, et al, are attempts by the ignorant to simplify what they otherwise do not understand. That extends to science generally.

The Maizer

February 19th, 2017 at 10:36 PM ^

There's a tree in Sweden that is more than 9000 years old, but it is clonal so only the roots are that old. There is also a tree in California that is likely more than 5000 years old, so pretty close.

Edit: Did a little more reading. There's an aspen grove in Utah that has a root system that is estimated to be 80,000 years old.


February 19th, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^

Any person with just a few thousand dollars can travel and verify for themselves that the earth is not flat.

Evolutionary theory itself does not have answers for all questions of life, and they certainly do not have any confirming tests an individual can perform at home.

Climate science has some similar trouble in that they do not have fully vetted answers on questions like which percentage of warming is created by man vs say volcanic activitiy.

One reason for the polarization we have is because people lump in things for which there is definitive proof with others which are supported by theory more than with repeatable experimentation.


February 19th, 2017 at 6:02 PM ^

The problem we have today is that people choose to believe whatever they want to believe as a fact.

Ask any scientist and they will tell you that evolution has just as much scientific backing as the claim that earth is round.

The flat earthers are using the EXACT same tactics that Creationists use to attack evolution. Any difference among them is pure aesthetics.


February 19th, 2017 at 8:00 AM ^

He has got to be trolling. There is no way he actually believes the Earth is flat. I mean, this is almost too stupid of a statement to even address. I didn't actually know there were still people out there that believed this stuff. I wonder if Kyrie and Draymond believe that the US put men on the moon?

Perkis-Size Me

February 19th, 2017 at 8:08 AM ^

Those two should be eternally thankful that they have the ability to dribble a ball and put it in a hoop better than 99.999% of the rest of this country. And that there is an industry here that will pay them an exorbitant amount of money to do it. Both have them seem to have a very apparent lacking of intellectual capacity.

As Frank Grimes once said to Homer Simpson, "if you'd lived in any other country in the world, you would've starved to death years ago."


February 19th, 2017 at 8:11 AM ^

If the holographic universe theory is correct, then he's right and our perception of three dimensions is an illusion (i.e. the universe is really flat, not just the earth). It's an interesting concept if you've never read about it and attempts to explain observations about the universe and gravity without dark matter.

Of course, I'm probably giving a bit more credit to them than they are due...


February 19th, 2017 at 8:20 AM ^

Well, it explains why Irving lost the 3-point competition last night - clearly he was unfamiliar with the shape of the object required to make said shots and that's what threw him. Now, if he had been allowed to use, say, a Frisbee or a flat piece of cardboard or something, it may have turned out differently. 


February 19th, 2017 at 8:20 AM ^

If the earth is flat, then why can't I see Cuba from Key West? They tell me it's because of the curvature of the earth, whereas I always thought it was because Cuba was 90 fucking miles away!