OT: Duke Alum - Kyrie Irving and Sparty Alum - Draymond Green Believe Earth is Flat

Submitted by VicTorious1 on February 19th, 2017 at 7:22 AM

It appears Kyrie Irving and Draymond Green are flat earthers. FYI, the Earth is round.

Per the initial podcast where Kyrie unleashes this foolishness:

 

“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. “It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.”

 

While serial ball-kicker Draymond doesn't proclaim that the Earth is flat, he's definitely not a believer in a round earth:

 

“Who’s to say that picture is telling the truth? I can make a round picture with my iPhone today, with the panorama camera and make it look round."

 

I hope Kyrie is trolling, but based on his follow up comments he appears to really believe this stuff. Draymond is a Sparty, so not much surprise there.

Links to the various stories:

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kyrie-irving-flat-earth-draymond-gre…

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/02/18/draymond-green-kyrie-irving-…

Comments

blueheron

February 19th, 2017 at 9:30 AM ^

Perhaps you could find us a peer-reviewed study from a respectable journal that has *established* a link between vaccines and autism. Go ahead.

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Also, I don't believe that studies have definitively ruled out that the moon is held in its orbit by a million invisible purple monkeys.

ijohnb

February 19th, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^

son started showing visible signs of ASD right after MMR. It is a somewhat startling thing to witness. It is highly likely the signs were there but largely undetectable before that but it does alter your perspective on the issue somewhat. I am still fully vaccinating my "surprise" two year old because I think it is imperative for community health even if there is a yet uncovered connection. I am not an "anti-vax nut" that is the target of much scorn.

Gameboy

February 19th, 2017 at 10:10 AM ^

When there are so many kids getting vaccinations at the same time autism conditions start showing, you will have numerous cases like yours. It is simple statistics.

Correlation does not equal causality.

lhglrkwg

February 19th, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^

and that was proven, and now this stupid idea that vaccines and autism are related continues to infect suburban moms everywhere. There is NO evidence that vaccines cause autism and people need to stop spreading that dumb idea because it results damn measles outbreaks

As such, this is one of my favorite charts ever

swan flu

February 19th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^

Look man, i have kids too, and if one of them had a life altering diagnosis I would have questions and want answers as well. But I would SEEK Out legitimate perspectives before jumping to conclusions.

For example, the organization Autism Speaks perspective: https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/learn-more-autism/what-causes-…

Or i would look into what research is currently being done on the subject. If you did that, you would see that there IS a lot of research being done on Autism and that all of it refutes the idea that vaccines are causative.

If you do these things and still think vaccines are related to autism, then YOU can go fuck yourself.

swan flu

February 19th, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^

Oh okay, you know better than the world leading non-profit dedicated to Autism.

FYI-I actually have a life altering diagnosis (not Autism) so I'm not ignorant of that experience.

If you are a good father you would seek out informed perspectives that would actually help your child, rather than ignore reason and demand useless research.

ijohnb

February 19th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^

had no cause to call me ignorant. I had not said anything to indicate I was, nor anything to suggest I hadn't read up on the condition from reputable sources. In fact, I said that I was going to get my other son vaccinated despite my emotional hesitancy to do it. Apologies for what I said after that. I wish you and your family good health and happiness.

evenyoubrutus

February 19th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^

I won't mind you telling me to fuck myself - now that I have gotten that out of the way, I am going to say that countless studies on human psychology would suggest that you are the last person to present a reasonable opinion on this matter, considering you have such a profound emotional connection to the subject.

ijohnb

February 19th, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^

are a good poster and seemingly a good guy, so I don't hesitate saying to you, nobody knows what causes autism so you should be highly, highly skeptical of people that claim to know what doesn't cause it. They are just as full of shit as people who think vaccinations are the direct culprit. Probably more so.

evenyoubrutus

February 19th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^

Well that you are correct about (that nobody really knows). I was actually just talking with my father about this, as he has a master's degree in special education, and spent a lot of time working with children who have autism and aspergers. And for one, I now have a ton of respect for parents who have to deal with this affecting their family, and yes, nobody really knows anything about it, especially since every case is so different. There really needs to be a lot more research on it. I have an employee whose son was only recently diagnosed and he is now a teenager. Because the spectrum is so broad many doctors have a very difficult time diagnosing it.

ijohnb

February 19th, 2017 at 4:57 PM ^

man. I seriously appreciate that. "Cure for autism" doesn't seem to be at the top of anybody's list of things but it a seriously problem, and people like me honestly want to know why and exactly what it is. There are some awesome autistic kids, my son included, I just want to know more about the subject of his struggle, because he is truly a tough kid.

evenyoubrutus

February 19th, 2017 at 5:08 PM ^

It's obvious to me that you are willing to do whatever it takes to get the best care for him. I know that is a constant struggle and can be exhausting to advocate for your kids. I've been there too, although nothing as significant as a lifelong affliction. Good luck to you.

LSAClassOf2000

February 19th, 2017 at 10:36 AM ^

As the father of a child on the autism spectrum, there is no credible study that I have seen which links vaccines to autism nor do I expect any to ever arise because the very idea is, in my estimation, a stupid one posed by people who wanted someone convenient to blame. If you really want a good - and accurate - history from generations of clinicians who dealt with autism before it really had a name and the struggle to identify all of its characteristics, I suggest the book "Neurotribes: The Legacy Of Autism And The Future Of Neurodiversity" - it changed the way I thought about being a parent of a child with autism and it even changed the way I approach my son's day-to-day struggles with socialization and other issues.

MGoStretch

February 19th, 2017 at 1:12 PM ^

It's startling to see pictures from back in that day of parents/kids lined up for blocks for the opportunity to get the vaccine. Parents would fight tooth and nail for the opportunity to protect their child from waking up paralyzed. These days, there are websites designed for the explicit purpose of teaching people how to doctor the paperwork and get an exemption based on their *feelings* about them. Man, what a crazy, mixed up, smallpox free and nearly polio free world we live in...

umumum

February 19th, 2017 at 11:05 AM ^

and you'll have earned every one of them.

If it's simply a matter of my child has autism and was vaccinated, why not blame flouride or mother's milk or chemtrails---children are exposed to those as well.