OT: Duke Alum - Kyrie Irving and Sparty Alum - Draymond Green Believe Earth is Flat
It appears Kyrie Irving and Draymond Green are flat earthers. FYI, the Earth is round.
Per the initial podcast where Kyrie unleashes this foolishness:
“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. “It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.”
While serial ball-kicker Draymond doesn't proclaim that the Earth is flat, he's definitely not a believer in a round earth:
“Who’s to say that picture is telling the truth? I can make a round picture with my iPhone today, with the panorama camera and make it look round."
I hope Kyrie is trolling, but based on his follow up comments he appears to really believe this stuff. Draymond is a Sparty, so not much surprise there.
Links to the various stories:
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kyrie-irving-flat-earth-draymond-gre…
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/02/18/draymond-green-kyrie-irving-…
February 19th, 2017 at 8:26 AM ^
VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM!
-Kyrie Irving
February 19th, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
They do have high levels of mercury though, that's a fact and not so healthy
February 19th, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^
I'll take a trace amount of mercury over polio, Hepatitis, smallpox, or any of the other diseases that vaccines have drastically decreased.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^
Vaccines are absolutely fine. Do not talk about things you don't understand, because it's clear you're bad at it.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
But the mercury involved is broken down into ethylmercury, which is much more readily expelled from the body than the methylmercury we get from eating contaminated seafood. The vaccine doses are also a few thousandths of a milliliter. Using concentration is misleading when the dosages are so small in comparison to other potential sources of mercury such as a 400 mL glass of tap water or 250g serving of tuna.
We now return to breathlessly over-analyzing anything tangentially related to Michigan sports (like this apparently.)
February 19th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
Not trying to attack you personally, but you need to google this and read up about vaccines because you're obviously being affected by the fringes who play on people's fears of "chemicals". The guy above me did a nice job summarizing
February 19th, 2017 at 8:33 AM ^
I cannot believe that either institution let them into college.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:45 AM ^
People believe anything, and it's hard to know what is fact. The is just as part of the #alternativefacts movement.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:59 AM ^
The flat earth conspiracy people have been around way longer than that twitter hashtag, sad to say.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:46 AM ^
I think the headline is "Draymond Green can use camera on his iphone".
I was not prepared for that bombshell.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
you must've missed his dick pic debacle last year
February 19th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
Both of them.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:13 AM ^
of using a fucking smartphone to deny basic science is hilariously sad.
I could see it if he was rocking one of those Fred Flintstone shell/horn phones though.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:40 AM ^
Jabberwock....you mistakenly dropped in a pic of Brady Hoke in place of Fred Flintstone.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
But didn't have the guts to start a new thread :(
My hats off to you.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
Apparently, they don't teach shapes until sophomore year there.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:17 AM ^
If you've taken a class you're considered an alum.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:21 AM ^
Well apparently he did take Stupid 101 and Dumb Ass 102 and passed those with flying colors!
February 19th, 2017 at 10:20 AM ^
If you're dumb and stupid would you pass that class or fail it?
February 19th, 2017 at 9:16 AM ^
LMAO! There are many things in this world that aren't what they seem or what we are told but the earth being flat isn't one of them.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:23 AM ^
What next? Bet they believe in Santa Claus too
February 19th, 2017 at 10:36 AM ^
C'mon man. WD hasn't gone to bed yet. Way to ruin everything!!!
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February 19th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
....and the tooth fairy.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^
Draymond Green has a college degree. That alone should terrify people.
These flat earth people always make me laugh because it always feels like they are trying to be clever and failing. Like, I can see how someone might argue about evolution or space travel, as stupid as those arguments are, because those are relatively complex topics that require some nuance. But the world is a globe, and at some point in their lives they were taught this and believed it. So somewhere, later on in life, they had to take a fundamental rule of existence on this planet and replace it with this idea. That's insane to me, as there isn't some social or political stigma to thinking the world is round that would pressure you to change your mind.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^
People should, and can, calm their terror by asking him where the degree is from.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:31 AM ^
First world problems. This is exactly why I'm such a vocal propoenent of removing warning labels.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:43 AM ^
Wow, turtleboy! You come up with that one all on your own? Doubting that one.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
I think these guys are doing something bigger than "the Earth is flat." Like some sort of weird social experiment. I could be wrong, but their brashness suggests they want you to challenge them and not actually believe them.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:33 PM ^
The simplest explanation for Irving is that he wants publicity for his upcoming movie.
As for why Green got involved...no idea. I'm open to the idea that he's just that stupid.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:48 AM ^
so we probably don't want to discuss too much, especially since it distracts from the real conspiracy:
Stevie Wonder can see. You're not fooling anyone, Stevie.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:58 AM ^
Your not smart because you think the earth is a globe. Your fucking dumb because you are taking those statements seriously
February 19th, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
Never mind. Replied in the app to a post that doesn't appear here
February 19th, 2017 at 9:56 AM ^
See mGrowOld's first comment above. See this: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/si/extra-mustard/2017/02/18/…
It would be funny if an MSU guy and a Duke guy were this off base, but this seems more like a prank.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:01 AM ^
There goes his chance at ever playing for the Harlem Globetrotters.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:07 AM ^
Welp this thread is going to get locked.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^
Everybody knows that the earth is square with a roulette table in the middle of it.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
All grow a pair and start behaving responsibly, this shit will continue. They want to be "the new way people exchange ideas and learn about the world around them" and displace traditional media, but they have no desire to spend the money to fact check and weed out insane shit.
I mean for Christ's sake, these companies won't even move their ass to censor ISIS and violent White Supremecists from spreading their propaganda on their platforms, let alone lift a finger to make sure they're not platforms to spread blatantly insane anti-science that makes the population dumber. They just don't care, they've got a revenue target to hit.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
I am cooking a delicious omlette on this comment, and will use the leftover BTU's to heat my home for the remainder of the winter.
* actually mostly agree with you.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:59 AM ^
The ideas that drive those ideologies have been in existence for many decades and even centuries.
The most famous example is the "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" a famous antisemitic invention of Tsarisr Russia's secret police that purportedly showed the minutes of a meeting of a cabal of Jewish leaders about how they were to rule the world.
People believed it and some still do over a century after it's publication. The Turner Diaries and Mein Kampf are also still potent sources of propaganda for the far right. All of these are largely passed in book form.
Then you have films which are the most powerful type of propaganda. These too can and are passed over the Internet in places where Facebook, Google, and others do not tread.
The problem is not social media, but the very openness of the internet. Certainly social media is a good conduit for the expression n of opinion, but the meat of the ideologies are passed on through file sharing and deep internet sites. That is where the actual sharing among hate groups is occurring. Social media is too obvious and too easy for the law to track.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:18 AM ^
It's the internet, man. You can't censor everything. People just need to not be dumb.
Which is impossible.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
It's our God-given right to be dumb if we want to be!
February 19th, 2017 at 7:34 PM ^
It's not "the internet," one big blob mass in 2017. Some websites have managed to carve out a place as mainstream outlets that rise above the fray and are given more credence by the general public than others. No, of course we'll never be able to stop some guy with a blog spot from saying some crazy shit.
But websites like Youtube and Facebook that have entered into the mainstream media absolutely have a responsibility to be gate keepers and keep from giving destructive nonsense the benefit of their brand and exposure.
Here's an example: let's say 12 years ago Brian had run a story about how it was a done deal that Lloyd Carr was stepping down, taking the AD job and that DeBord was being promoted to HC. It would have generated some hits sure, but the fallout from Some Guy With a Blog saying something nutty and wrong in 2005 would have been minimal.
If Brian today ran a story about Harbaugh leaving to take the the Chargers job, it would result in the Michigan AD having to make a statement and it would be a giant mess. MGoBlog is not just "Some guy's blog" in 2017, it's considered an important source of news and opinion on Michigan athletics, And take this sites standing and multiply by 10 to get to where Facebook and Youtube are now.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^
"Nothing makes a man suspect much, more than to know little."
So 4 centuries ago, Bacon appropriately offered that conspiracy theories are one way small minds deal with complex issues...and thus, occupy the portion of those small minds that could identify the facts or solutions.
The twin-edged sword of access to the internet.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
All of these people believe this shit because they see it in memes and don't bother to research themselves.
It's not just wrong but it's dangerous. Some kid might grow up believing that the earth is flat because his favorite athlete or music artist said it. As a person of influence you have a responsibility not to do shit like this.
I had two friends jump on board that whole "cancer is a scam" meme and they both tried to cure very treatable forms of cancer with healthy eating, positive thought and copious amounts of marijuana. They died.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
I have a friend who had two sick kids and was trying to treat them with oils. I lit her up. I basically said get your head out of your ass and get these kids to a medical facility or I will call the authorities and have someone else do it. One of them almost died and the crazy part is that it only changed her thinking on it for a short time. She has since reverted back to this line of thinking, that almost everything can be treated outside of the system and that the medical community is some nefarious scam force to be avoided. It's like a mental deficiency with some people.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:04 PM ^
I have friends like that. Maybe not to that extent, but very distrustful of the medical establishment. Anti vaxxers.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
if he had sought traditional medical intervention instead of trying to treat his own pancreatic cancer with veggie smoothies for a couple of years. That's not an exaggeration. What I'm saying is, even genius, visionary people have weird blind spots on exactly this issue.