Rumor out on FL staff offering recruit money

we've been one for 60 years already

This times 2,438

the death penalty will ever be imposed again. Penn State happens to be one of the schools immune for consideration of that penalty.

I recall an article a few years ago, presented in the same fashion as most articles of this type, with the intention of determining the best unis, helmet, stadium, et. al. This particular article was going to determine the dirtiest programs in the BIG. The findings were OSU was the leader in terms of the most serious violations. However, they were forced, and this is using their words as best I can recall, to determine MSU the dubious winner, simply due to the sheer number of vioolations. So, it is not like is hasn't occurred there prior to Urb's arrival. 

Tressel, utilizing tricks he had perfected at the far more obscure location afforded him at YSU, may have been the best at his time while at OSU, and actually might be the responsible party for the now understood and accepted illegal practices of its football program.  However, the termination of Tressel, based on NCAA violations, should have resulted in greater scrutiny over its football program, the firing and subsequent hiring of Urban, lead to a more wide spread approach to NCAA violations. Like the premier programs in the SEC, the hiring actually caused greater separation on the part of OSU in terms of accepted practices and experiencing a level of recruiting never before seen at OSU. As is almost always the case at universities who may be somewhat leery in initial implementation of these policies, the degree of success rising to a leval never before experienced, even among some of the most successful programs in the history of the sport, make it easy to accept the practices as an integral part of the program and a genuine reluctance to terminate such activities. Once introduced, these actions will continue to remain a part of the program despite any change in coaching that migth occur. 

Great minds think alike then.

if it's proven that shadiness happened and any of those kids was guilty of taking money or gifts, I don't think we'd want them and they may be deemed ineligible anyway. of course, the investigation might take 7 years...

Guys who would be more in the know like Sam Webb often go public about the cheating going on down South. Had a segment on there today or yesterday as well I believe. I'm not saying Michigan doesn't do anything controversial at all as I clearly do not know, but the fact that Warde Manuel went public last year about Rashan Gary's battle against the bagmen tells me that Michigan tries very hard to do things the right way.

I don't claim to be in the know by any means, but I always felt like there was a difference in how players were "taken care of" at a place like Michigan vs the schools down South. First off, I don't think it is a stretch to say that they play a lot dirtier down in the SEC and ACC. A lot of players at the D1 level come from working-class to poor families. I always felt like it was probably fairly common for people close to a program to make sure these kids had things they need while away from home, especially considering the time commitment that would prevent them from working much while on campus. A little walking around money or whatever isn't really hurting anyone. In my mind, the dirtier programs are where the bagmen as we know them come into play. It becomes more of a "what do we have to do to get you to sign?" This where the houses for family members, cars, sacks of cash can tilt the playing field. Again, this is mostly just speculation without much fact, but just how I have always viewed the landscape.

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