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October 21st, 2016 at 12:56 AM ^
Care to provide some evidence showing that SAE was involved in that, or would you just like to continue to lump all fraternities together?
October 21st, 2016 at 6:08 AM ^
We can probably lump them in with the undesirables - "SAE - which was suspended by U-M in 2011 over allegations of hazing - was suspended by its national chapter in the summer of 2015."
October 21st, 2016 at 6:54 AM ^
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October 21st, 2016 at 8:42 AM ^
That's probably because of your myopia.
October 21st, 2016 at 8:44 PM ^
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October 21st, 2016 at 11:04 AM ^
Really really curious as to when in time this references.
October 21st, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^
Pls, tell me more. I think most recent alums would strongly disagree, even if based only on reputation.
October 21st, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
SAE is a basket of deplorables.
October 21st, 2016 at 6:26 PM ^
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October 21st, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
they don't like frats around here.
October 21st, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
Last I heard, the 2016 Mudbowl is on pace to raise $50k for Motts this year (having raised hundreds of thousands over it's 80+ year tenure). Think about that as you post from a basement.
October 20th, 2016 at 11:01 PM ^
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I thought Vicki Vallaincourt was the debil.
October 21st, 2016 at 2:03 PM ^
Im pretty sure it's Foosball :-)
October 20th, 2016 at 11:04 PM ^
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bus to Bursley, freshman!
October 21st, 2016 at 12:29 AM ^
Current member of a fraternity on campus so hopefully I can shed some light. SAE went rogue last year and finally lost their house, but the property is still owned by their alumni. A new sororoity (AOPi) is leasing the house starting next year, but since the property isn't owned by them mudbowl will continue. Before, fraternities competed in preliminary games for the chance to play SAE on homecoming, but now there's a mudbowl "committee" (with a few former SAE's and some current greek life people) and all of the frats involved are just competing with each other and the best two will play on homecoming. It seemed a little disorganized this year but hopefully it will get better.
October 21st, 2016 at 12:54 AM ^
So basically it's now an event sponsored and held by a private group of alumni (and friends), rather than either an SAE or Greek Life event, for the benefit of charity. That frankly sounds like a win-win, and one the university (and the national fraternity) is probably going to be pretty tweaked off about since they'll have literally no control over it whatsoever now (privately owned property, privately run event). Would love to see the reaction in IFC when they realized that...
October 21st, 2016 at 6:00 AM ^
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/10/no_longer_rouge_m…
October 21st, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^
The Tradition for many many years before both Phi Delt and SAE had some issues was that they would play each other every year. It was a huge deal for both houses. That changed when Phi Delt got the boot in the mid-90s. I was sad to see it go, I played in the game twice for PDT, it was something we really looked forward to every year.
Bummer it took 20 posts before OP got an answer to his question, do we always have to wallow in fraternity hate every time something vaguelly related to them comes up?
Have to say I am quite saddened by all the folks who hate fraternities simply for the sake of hating fraternities. If you lump them all together and simply point out all the negatives you are being just as closed minded as the folks most of you seem to dislike so much.
October 21st, 2016 at 2:50 PM ^
Well put brother. Our guys are in the semifinals of the play-in tournament, so hopefully they can make it back to the mud.
October 21st, 2016 at 4:24 PM ^
+1
And further to that point, many of the individual members of these defunct fraternities are unfairly grouped with those members who are most responsible for digracing the entire organization. I knew plenty of guys in SAE who were legitimately good people and weren't involved in the shit that brought about the house's demise. I'm sure the same can be said for the many other houses that have been kicked off campus and/or had their charter pulled by nationals.
October 21st, 2016 at 4:27 AM ^
I cant say what a corner lot goes for at South U and Washtenaw these days, but it can't be insignificant!! Perhaps its value is diminished by being in a yearly floodplain (ack ack ack).
I spent several years cleaning up dishes at KATheta (long) before it too was overtaken by the Dark Side.
October 21st, 2016 at 7:00 AM ^
Even going back to my time at Michigan, I have wondered about the value of that corner. In my work life, I've had the experience of dealing with several people who manage and develop properties in the area who always talk about maybe looking into buying it too, but clearly that never gets very far.
October 21st, 2016 at 7:55 AM ^
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October 21st, 2016 at 2:37 PM ^
Sig Ep got the boot right after I graduated so the kids trashed the house, it then burned, and they sold it off...One of the nicest old houses on campus is now just one more random building.
October 21st, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^
According to the washtenaw county auditor site about $766,000.00
https://secure.ewashtenaw.org/ecommerce/property/showSummary.do?uniqueK…
October 21st, 2016 at 8:10 AM ^
As was said above, a "private" group has now taken over and is organizing the mudbowl. The event still benefits UM Mott Children's Hospital. Any group of students can fundraise to participate in the Mudbowl, but only the top several made it to the play-in round robin. Here is a link to the fundraiser site - https://www.crowdrise.com/83rd-annual-michigan-mudbowl1
October 21st, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^
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October 21st, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^
I remember reading about it in one of Bacon's books. Greg Dooley also covers it every year on his mvictors site.
October 21st, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^
Put on by "The Michigan Mudbowl Club" which is comprised of a core of ex-SAE's and some non-greeks too.
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/10/no_longer_rouge_m…
October 21st, 2016 at 4:37 PM ^
for chariity?