Jason Sehorn torches Scott Frost for his comment
September 11th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 1:29 PM ^
...and his mother!
September 11th, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^
The people who post in this thread obviously care about this thread.
September 11th, 2016 at 3:15 PM ^
I'm just glad Scott Frost isn't a Sparty or we'd never escape his threads
September 11th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^
I don't even care about my own lack of caring!
September 11th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^
Apathyception
September 11th, 2016 at 12:00 PM ^
These men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of.
September 11th, 2016 at 12:05 PM ^
Donny still died.
September 11th, 2016 at 12:06 PM ^
Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
September 11th, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^
You know dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in Nam of course.
September 11th, 2016 at 12:29 PM ^
You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole!
September 11th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^
Who are they running? They might be the candidate of choice this year. Apathy pass it on.
September 11th, 2016 at 11:47 AM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 12:03 PM ^
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September 11th, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 4:20 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 12:30 PM ^
Everyones laughing at Frosty, even his Mom.
September 11th, 2016 at 12:31 PM ^
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September 11th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^
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September 11th, 2016 at 12:45 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^
Frost's team cares. It's a motivational ploy for him and his team. Good for him. He's letting his team know that he believes in them and that they didn't back down from Michigan.
I agree that we shouldn't care, and neither do fans of 127 teams out there. The message isn't intended for us, though. It's intended for the 100+ kids in his locker room.
September 11th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 1:06 PM ^
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September 11th, 2016 at 1:06 PM ^
Motivation through lying seems...suspect to me, as a strategy. It's sort of like Hitler sitting in his bunker in late 1944 saying, "we're shooting much more accurately than our enemies right now! Our kill-per-bullet ratio is so, so much better than theirs!!!"
September 11th, 2016 at 8:06 PM ^
I get where you're going with this, but in the six months between June and December, 1944, at least 100,000 American troops were killed, and the Canadians and British took nearly as many casualties. At the end of 1944, the war was still a close-run thing in places.
Frost said what he said after the "war" was over, and lost, making his comments even more foolish.
September 11th, 2016 at 2:26 PM ^
I mean, you can tell your wife that you love her, but if you don't act like it outside of your own house, then she might question it.
September 11th, 2016 at 2:43 PM ^
But if you bring it up at a press confernce, she will really doubt you, because then it appears contrived to make you look good, not to make her feel good..
September 11th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^
Try announcing to the world how much you love your wife, and see how she reacts.
September 11th, 2016 at 6:42 PM ^
Try annuncing to the world that you and she out-fucked her and any other suiter, and see how she reacts.
Some things you keep in the locker room.
September 11th, 2016 at 7:55 PM ^
That would be "suitor" but I still think it's hilarious.
September 11th, 2016 at 1:04 PM ^
Yeah, that'll do it.
September 11th, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^
This isn't meant personally and could be intended for a bunch of the posters in here, but it's almost like the majority of people on here have never been in the locker room or a post-game huddle. Coaches say positive things. They try to find a silver lining. Coaches don't tell the people who are supposed to believe in them and their system, "You guys got your asses kicked today. They threw the ball all over us, they destroyed our offensive line, and we sucked on special teams. Now...believe in the direction I'm leading you, and let's go get 'em next week!"
Players want to know that something they're doing is working. And in this case, if it's their physicality and determination, then so be it. That's something to build on next week or beyond.
September 11th, 2016 at 2:47 PM ^
Don't take this personally, but it's almost like you've never been in a locker room discussing how what the coach is telling outsiders is making you guys a laughingstock.
Telling his guys they out-toughed the other team in a blowout loss is fine, so long as he does it in the locker room. When he takes it outside, and these kids start getting the texts telling them what a tool their coach sounds like for woofing after getting crushed, he pretty much ruins any gain he got from trying it on with the team.
September 11th, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^
Except he wasn't talking to his players... These are presser quotes.
So, your "I've been in a locker room and you haven't" schtick is pretty much little more than the price of tea in China in this discussion.
September 11th, 2016 at 3:39 PM ^
You're right. He was talking to the press. I guess he should have told that press that his team sucks and got their asses kicked up and down the field.
September 11th, 2016 at 4:20 PM ^
Cool hyperbole. He could have just said "we got beat" and leave it at that, instead of concocting some kind of macho fiction about his players dominating a team that beat 'em by nearly five touchdowns.
September 11th, 2016 at 4:42 PM ^
Did he say that UCF dominated Michigan? Or did he say that they "outhit" Michigan?
September 11th, 2016 at 6:54 PM ^
Those are really the only options you can imagine? Making up obvious bullshit about "out-hitting" or "team sucks and got their asses kicked?"
Your argument is based on the Falllacy of the False Dichotomy, and so your argument is false.
September 11th, 2016 at 8:14 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 8:47 PM ^
Believe it or not, I don't care to list every logical combination of words that a coach might use to describe his team. I guess I'm just lazy that way.
September 11th, 2016 at 3:31 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^
Touche.
September 11th, 2016 at 4:23 PM ^
You know, that'd be great if Frost was in a locker room when he was talking.
I guess I've missed where players stand behind the press pool to lap up every piece of a coach's message for the day.
September 11th, 2016 at 5:20 PM ^
September 11th, 2016 at 6:49 PM ^
That's the problem: Frost gave them nothing to go on. He didn't reference the game or the players at all, just something called "hit." Rather than talking up what they did well ("we got to the edge some, when we executed like we know we can"), he woofed some vague bullshit about "out-hitting" which everyone knew was simply false (Michigan stopped them far more than they stopped Michigan, and more of their players left hurt than Michigan players did).
Sure, sometimes yo shade the truth when talking about or to your players, but when you are going to go full bullshit, you need to do it where they won't be embarrassed.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:51 AM ^
I can easily imagine that CFU coaches went in at half-time and said to themselves something along the line of, "Look, we know we have no chance to win this game. We're outgunned. But here is what we're gonna emphasize to the players:
'Don't look at the scoreboard; we don't care about that right now. Maybe the guy across from you is bigger, or faster, or more talented than you are. But what matters to us is how you stand up to them, and that you are more physical than they are. I want to challenge each and every one of you to outhit that guy across from you on each and every play.'"
If they did that, then in a small way (insignificant to Michigan and the rest of the world but significant to themselves) they succeeded. Would have to analyze the game film to see if anything like that actually happened, but when your team is getting it's butt kicked, you have to, as someone has as already mentioned, find something to hang your hat on, something to retain some pride and believe in to keep your guys motivated until you are ready to compete at a higher level, and on the scoreboard. Frost is publically letting his players and fans that they should believe he sees some small degree of progress.
If this were a rival, or a team we might see later in a bowl or playoff game, this might be considered bulletin board material or a real challenge. And who knows, Michigan coaches could use it as something to watch out for, or as a motivator if they really think they need it. As it is, for Michigan and Michigan fans, it's just a small dog barking in the rear view mirror as we speed away.
September 12th, 2016 at 7:25 AM ^
Big Windup
No Pitch.