OT: Next Baylor HC
I would be surprised if Herman made a move that is arguably lateral or at the very least a marginal step up when he is almost certainly going to be the most hotly pursued coaching candidate in a matter of a couple years at most.
Herman already turned down South Carolina, apparently with this in mind. He just signed a contract. He is staying at Houston on purpose.
He can afford to wait. He will win 10+ games a year until Texas or LSU open up (or Alabama by retirement, I guess). No reason to rewrite the program at Baylor when you can do it next year using a roster loaded with 5-stars.
Would hire Herman. Both of those schools prefer football to basketball on grass. Texas is probably willing to try anything at this point.
I agree that Herman isn't leaving Houston until a top tier P5 team comes calling. Maybe OSU when Harbaugh forces Meyer into retirement after losing The Game 5 years in a row.
I think Meyer has some life threatening disease when the count reaches three. He won't let there be a fourth.
I think both Bama and LSU want to win, and will pursue the best candidate. Granted, Alabama can win with a "traditional" type guy, but they aren't going to hire a Hoke type just to line up under center. Granted, though, a guy like Kirby Smart, if he excels, will be an easy hire for them. And of course there is no sign that Saban is going to slow down yet.
LSU will also pursue the best guy, regardless of style. And Herman, following Meyer's lead, plays a style that is unique but is hardly soft; I think that he might be the best coaching candidate period next year, and that means a school like LSU will be looking for him.
Herman knows how to run a powerful spread offense; he was destroying Alabama with a pretty basic power/counter running package out of the gun a year ago with OSU. It's not basketball on grass, and it is not prone to big-game frustration the way Oregon's offense is. I think any major school would be delighted to get him.
100% cosign. Hell, Bama tried to hire Rich Rod a year before we got him. I think we're all scarred from Michigan's fanbase demanding a certain style, but the vast majority of schools do not give a shit in the slightest. Just win baby.
The PTSD must have blocked that out. Oh how I wish he had taken that job!
Also I don't think Les is going to be shown the door anytime soon. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if LSU wins the SEC this year.
Herman most definitely doesn't run "basketball on grass" like Rich Rod, Briles, and *insert Oregon coach here*. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between OSU and the rest of those. Like they actually win big games.
Urban is an offensive coach, after all. What Herman runs at Houston will more likely be his own. The other variable is the talent level. Those basketball on grass offenses were built for teams with lesser talent to contend, not ones that recruit like Bama and OSU.
Alabama tried to hire Rich Rodriguez before Nick Saban
Not sure why Herman would take the job. Seems like Houston would be a better option now until Texas or A&M opens up. Morris I could see.
Why would any promising coach go to Baylor now? If the NCAA doesn't fuck this up (I know, I know) Baylor should get hammered for lack of institutional control. Why would anyone of note walk into that buzz saw?
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Herman was my first thought, but Baylor makes no sense for him. Take out their past few seasons under Briles and add an investigation by the NCAA and possibly DoJ and Houston is a better job. He'll have better options in a year or two.
It'll be someone who doesn't have to reach for a P5 gig. Plenty will open up next year, why deal with whatever issues are coming. Maybe someone under the radar or overlooked for P5 jobs may take it and be in over there head. Or get a pro coordinator who needs 2 years before a Hc spot like BoB.
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the season. It will come down to a few questions. What does the future look like at Baylor? Are there still investigations going on? Does it look like the scandal will make it too hard to recruit? What kind of restrictions will the new administration put on the coach? How much they are willing to spend? Maybe part of changing the culture there will preclude their outbidding others for a big name. I don't think all those questions will be answered in six or seven months.
Then there are the usual things. Who's available and what other jobs are open? I think it's unlikely they could get anyone near the top of their wish list. it will probably be someone like you suggested. Someone like Tom Herman was unlikely in better circumstances, a pipe dream now. This season will surely be with an interim. It will be no shock if he's retained if not implicated by the investigation.
Mookie Blaylock.
+10
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John L Smith has experience in these situations. What's he up to?
Edit: It looks like he was hired by Kentucky State in Dec. This is perfect. He has no problem bolting for another school before coaching a game to coach through a year of scandal recovery.
Lying drunk behind a podium, a vague outline of his own handprint fading on his cheek while he lies in a pool of his own broken dreams.
Or so I imagine.
Where does Briles go? NFL for sure -- he is toxic for a college. OC somewhere this season or maybe he sits it out? Then Danny Snyder had a big fat paycheck waiting for him.
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I just read his wiki bio and it's quite possible hes never left the state of Texas in his life besides away games and other coaching related duties.
Pretty late for n the process to pick up an OC gig for this season. He probably sits out at least a year before finding another spot.
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Well if this clown can go from disgraced football coach to podunk university president,
I am sure Art can also do the same in the state of texas.
between cheating to win and endangering the welfare of women in order to win.
I completely agree with you, but it seems that some institutions don't seem to care as people like jim tressel, bobby knight, bobby petrino, and scores of others find places who will happily ignore past transgressions just to get a big time coach.
I keep forgetting this is real. Regardless of which team he coached, it's such an embarassment that a university has a former football coach as its president. I get that it's probably good for their fundraising, but God. Come on.
Well, it's an embarrassment because the specific coach in question is a disgraced cheater and liar. If Lloyd Carr was president of Akron University, that wouldn't be embarrassing.
What NFL team would want his offense? It's one of the premier examples of a college offense that doesn't translate to the pros. Can't imagine any team wanting to run it.
Basketball on grass isn't exactly hot there. Dan Snyder failed spectacularly hiring Spurrier to bring the fun n run to the NFL. He would seem like one of the last owners to be interested.
Style of play aside, why would any NFL team want to bring in Briles and his baggage? It's a PR nightmare. What do they get out of it? It's not like he was someone they were pursuing before. At best, he might get a job like Tressel had with the Colts, a low profile consultant.
The NFL has its own sexual/domestic assault problems. Briles' baggage is definitely a problem.
From what the reports say, the death penalty is a very real and reasonable possibility. I don't think anybody should be coaching football at Baylor for several years.
If PSU avoided it with their pedophile scandal I doubt Baylor will get hit with it.
The problem with the PSU situation was that, despite the egregious nature of PSU's conduct, PSU didn't actually break any NCAA rules in its handling of Sandusky (that's right; looking the other way while boosters give grocery money to cash-strapped players is a major NCAA violation but sheltering a pedophile who repeatedly raped children in athletic department facilities apparently isn't). The NCAA had to go outside of its normal enforcement procedure to punish PSU and had to get them to sign a consent decree (which PSU probably wouldn't have signed if it subjected them to the death penalty). That won't be necessary with Baylor, since they've already contacted the NCAA and essentially conceded that they violated NCAA rules.
And what they've admitted to, as well. I mean there's no way just Briles ends up fired. The report says not only did numerous football coaches receive notice and do nothing, but they actively met with victims and families and interfered. The staff as a whole knew and actively covered up numerous times, back to 2009. It even states administrators "retaliated" against an accuser.
So does the NCAA actually need to put " covering up child pedophiles is not allowed" in the rule book? I figured that was just a given.
No, but there should probably be some NCAA rule against programs committing felonies, violating state or federal laws, or committing acts or omissions that serve to cover up or conceal any of the foregoing.
Since the NCAA made it a point to note that "sub-tweeting" recruits is a violation but giving them cream cheese to go with their bagels isn't, you would think it would have occurred to them to make sure that violating myriad state and federal laws by looking the other way while football coaches repeatedly commit multiple violent felonies on university grounds over the course of at least a decade is actually an NCAA violation.
I thought the NCAA had some clause in its rule book about proper moral conduct (something along those lines) of which PSU obviously was in violation.
Possibly, but if that's the best they could do, then clearly the rulebook has some serious gaps. PSU officials violated numerous state and federal laws in their handling of the Sandusky situation, but beyond fining the school and prosecuting the officials responsible, there's not much the state or federal government can do to punish the Penn State football program. To fill that gap, there should be an NCAA rule that penalizes a program or athletic department if its officials commit such serious violations of the law in the course of carrying out their duties.
For the life of me, I can't find a link to the article in which I read this, but apparently the NCAA strongarmed PSU into signing the consent decree by huddling with the Big Ten ADs and getting them to agree to threaten PSU with expulsion from the conference if they didn't sign it. The result was obviously not unjust, but the NCAA should have had some formal mechanism to punish Penn State in that situation instead of having to resort to such tactics.
paragraph could be spun more than one way.
I read there was a strong sentiment within the Big Ten to expel PSU before the NCAA got involved. If the NCAA didn't step in and punish them, the Big Ten would have likely acted. No doubt PSU was told that if they fought the consent decree they would be booted from the Big Ten. I think it was perhaps more a case of the Big Ten using the NCAA than the other way around.
Herman and Morris can afford to wait for better opportunities
If I was Purdue I'd hire Briles then go to confession.
Too soon?
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I've blasted teams like Purdue for not having any guts in their coaching hires, but this is a bridge too far, even next year.
If Briles works again (not implausible) it will be in some corner of a lesser conference, or for a run-down ethically questionable school that's in the dumps.
Or: Hey, look, Ole Miss might need a coach.
.Just for the pure schadenfreude.
Imagine the number of couches that would go up in flames AND for how many nights!!!
Baylor is toxic.
Bobby Petrino would be a good fit.
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LOL Bobby Petrino is guilty of the same flaw many of us have fallen to. This is a whole different planet of bad in my opinion
Alum. Unimpeachable personally. Yes, failed as a pro coach, but he has major NFL experience. Would be their Forrest Gregg.
Interesting idea. Very interesting. The only problem is that he's not a match with their roster at all--logically, they would want someone who can utilize the talent they have, playing like Briles did. Singletary is a Manball type.
But he would bring integrity to the program.
How can we forget the man who can bring all his schematic advantages to waco....
That guy is a genius. Still getting paid by two schools after getting fired from them.
His fat ass is getting paid to do absolutely nothing.
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