Potential 2011 Commit?
Saw this on Scout. Just wondering from someone with an account who this kid is.
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=2&c=941340&ssf=1&RequestedURL=htt…
January 26th, 2010 at 11:37 PM ^
DE Brennen Beyer
6-4 215
Canton, MI
January 26th, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
I found him on the search... Brennan Beyer 6'4,215 lbs DE/TE
heres the link...
January 26th, 2010 at 11:39 PM ^
Thanks.....I'll have to do some research on him.
January 26th, 2010 at 11:41 PM ^
Here's a video on youtube.
These are the defensive highlights since that's more than likely what side of the ball he'll be on in college. There is also an offensive video too where he plays TE.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:24 AM ^
Damn, that kid lives in the backfield. Nice, very nice.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:38 AM ^
Love that video. Kid seems quick and aggressive. More impressive to me than the Jake Ryan vid I saw earlier today. I don't know, maybe he's playing inferior competition. But that video makes me excited about the offer.
January 27th, 2010 at 1:20 AM ^
more impressive than jake ryan?
January 26th, 2010 at 11:43 PM ^
On these kids early....he doesnt have ANY other offers, at least according to scout.
We'll see how that strategy pans out in the next few years...............great scouting, or just plain stupid?
January 26th, 2010 at 11:48 PM ^
This kid looks like a solid DE prospect. I have no clue what division he plays in, but he seems to get to the ball really well.
Im also loving the scouting by RichRod. We find sleepers in Carvin Johnson, Ray Vinopal, and Jake Ryan. I'm not saying this guy is going to be a total sleeper cause we haven't even ended the 2010 recruiting class and the rankings haven't came out yet. In the coming classes I'm sure the doubt in RichRods recruiting will simmer down a ton.
January 26th, 2010 at 11:54 PM ^
While I am OK with taking a shot on Johnson, Vinopal, and especially Ryan, we really need to see how they will perform throughout their career before labeling RR's scouting a success.
Since numbers are going to be much lower next year, I would like to see us be more cautious and wait for the bigger recruits.
January 27th, 2010 at 2:41 AM ^
FWIW Allen Trieu on the Scout board said he will be a top 5-8 range player in Michigan and probable top 300 player Nationally, so at DE I'll take that any day. His defensive film was impressive, and apparently he is thrilled about the offer because he was not expecting it this early.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:04 AM ^
This is a textbook example of the problems inherent in evaluating high-school talent. He plays against weak competition, so his film is of limited value. But he is tall with a good frame and relatively fast and quick for his size. No way Michigan offers him without some kind of measure of his speed, probably from his coach or opposing coaches.
My guess is this is an anti-MSU move. In the past, UM probably could have waited to offer someone like this, someone unlikely to get national attention because of the inferior competition level. But MD has been very aggressive lately with in-state talent, so I take this as a good sign -- RR is not going to be complacent about that.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:15 AM ^
I wouldn't say his film is of limited value, I'd say his highlights are of limited value. (They kind of always are anyway.) Coaches breaking down film get a lot more than the highlight videos and they look for flaws and weaknesses as much as they look for big plays. Those'll show up just as glaringly against weaker competition as they do against the top teams.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:03 AM ^
what I really mean is there's not going to be any film of him going up against an FBS prospect on the other side of the line.
For somebody like Jake Ryan, playing in Ohio's top division, that film exists. It's easier to get a sense of his tools and skills relative to other known quantities. Nothing like that exists for this kid.
But your point is well taken -- I didn't mean to suggest his film is entirely useless.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:40 AM ^
Kid is a big UM fan.
January 27th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^
We all realize that by referring to all of these players as sleepers we are assuming they end up being players right? Just want to make sure since it seems that every non-bluechip recruit we get is automatically referred to as a "sleeper".
Technically, given the definition of the word, referring to someone as "sleeper" must be done in past tense. Meaning we won't know if they are indeed a sleeper until they produce on the field.
Just sayin...
January 27th, 2010 at 12:00 AM ^
Agree. He looks like a good player, but I think he is the type we could have waited another 6-9 months on and still had a good shot at.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:36 AM ^
I think part of the strategy must be to try to lock down some early commitments so they can focus on closing strong with the big time recruits, since they tend to hold out longer. Last year and this year both, RR has closed strong. You don't want to lose a kid you like to Iowa because he likes that they were the first to offer. I trust that if they're offering early, they feel pretty good about him.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:44 AM ^
It is a good strategy for us at this current juncture. However, with a limited number of scholarships available and the need for at least 3-4 of them to be OL, I don't really understand an early offer to a player like Hollowell after we already had a commit from Greg Brown. I would be happier if the earlier offers were given to OL.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:24 AM ^
Isn't that what they said about Hankins?
January 27th, 2010 at 8:48 AM ^
There is a big difference between the two. They weren't sure on Hankins as a fit for the program. They had concerns he wasn't willing to put in the effort needed for the program. If they've offered this kid, they are sure.
BTW - I have no problems offereing this kid.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:34 AM ^
My point is that you can't always come in late in the process and catch up to the other schools. If we were to wait six months like the poster suggested, we would probably be behind other schools.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:49 AM ^
I imagine we would have landed Hankins if we offered him in September.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:37 AM ^
because his coach would have prevent him from committing to Michigan.
January 27th, 2010 at 11:11 AM ^
I remember all the talk on here was that Hankins would likely commit if offered at the camp he came to last spring/summer. People here seemed to be pretty high on Hankins until the offer didn't come.
Edit: found it. According to the Tuesday Recruitin' from March 31:
http://mgoblog.com/content/tuesday-recruitin-26
Despite the increased competition a Florida offer brings, I'd regard the above as extremely good news. Hankins has been rumored to be a Michigan fan and lean for a few months now, and if he's got the talent to reel in a Florida offer he's likely to pick one up from Michigan.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:07 AM ^
That's a legit question. I think we'll find out in another year or two.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:56 AM ^
So instead of offering based on what they see, the coaches should wait and offer based on their other offers?
January 27th, 2010 at 8:33 AM ^
Yes, yes, 1000000x times yes. I wish I could upvote this 50 times. The coaches know how many spots they have next year, are going to be picky, and think this kid is worth it. I think that's a solid pick up then.
January 27th, 2010 at 10:37 AM ^
I think what it boils down to is that RR and staff wants this kid enough to offer him this early, and that they're getting what they want.
This is a microcosm for the entire RR recruiting strategy: he gets who he wants.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:18 AM ^
I would be majorly disappointed if the coaching staff is using anything other than their own experience (having recruited HS kids for years ... collectively probably decades worth of experience) and they own eyes to evaluate whether they think a kid may be a player at the next level.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:43 AM ^
seems to feel he'll end up in the top 5 in the state of Michigan next year.
January 26th, 2010 at 11:54 PM ^
Plymouth is Division 1....My old hs played in that division(also austin white's division).. Not very strong football to be completely honest...I've never heard of him, and I usually know about the good players in the area, but who knows?
January 27th, 2010 at 12:21 AM ^
to say who is or was a sleeper until they play college football and prove themselves at that level. David Harris was a sleeper. Mike Hart was a sleeper. Vincent Smith if he stays injury-free will be a sleeper. Vinopal, Ryan, Johnson and the others we'll just have to wait and see.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:44 AM ^
Hey, he is from my hometown. Plymouth is part of the three high schools on one campus mega complex called PCEP(the park). There is also Salem and Canton on the same campus. They have one band for all three schools (that is obnoxiously good) but separate sports teams.
To be honest, the D-1 football in Michigan is not very competitive at all in relation to other football states, as someone pointed out earlier (sorry if anyone is offended). Canton regularly dominates their division and in all my time since going there they have had only 1 FBS level player (Devin Thomas I think his name was, went to JUCO and then MSU)
Still, the guy looked quite good on tape.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:49 AM ^
I think we need to take it REALLY slow for 2011 with the offers. We don't have many scholarships to give out, so I think we should be very selective with who we give them to. We should still recruit hard, but be picky as to who gets the offers. If August rolls around and some of our targets are looking elsewhere, we can get a little more generous. Until then, I say hold off.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:54 AM ^
The staff needs to be really careful about who they offer, and accept commitments from early. REALLY CAREFUL.
January 27th, 2010 at 1:26 AM ^
They know that they will have limited schollie spots for '11 class. They offered him which obviously means that they think that he's more than good enough to earn an super early offer. Most of the offers for '11 class goes to elite players like LeMay, HaHa, Braxton Miller, etc.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:40 AM ^
for '10 class, Michigan offered Carvin Johnson in the spring when he was a JR in HS. They obviously liked him and he didn't commit until a few months ago. Just because a player gets an offer, doesn't mean that they're going to commit right away. It's a way to get your foot on the door so you stand a better chance of landing them against the big boys.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:24 PM ^
Early offer and early accpetance may allow for advanced planning for early enrollment.
January 27th, 2010 at 1:03 AM ^
I just can't judge someone until I hear his assessment.
January 27th, 2010 at 1:10 AM ^
Magnus is out on the town tonight. He doesn't have time for us lowly "internet nerds" anymore.
New Avatar=New Magnus
January 27th, 2010 at 1:07 AM ^
As a former Salem football player, I can tell you that our division is very weak. Yes, we get killed by Canton year in and year out, but that's not because Canton is so great as much as the rest of the teams are just meh. I don't think PCEP has produced any notable division 1 football talent in 942 years. I can't speak for this kid's abilities, but just let me say Canton wouldn't fare well against Ohio and Florida's weakest divisions.
January 27th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^
When did you go to Salem? I graduated from there in 2006.
Do you remember when Canton's all-everything player was a 5'6" guy who weighed 140 pounds? forget his name but no one in the division could stop him, and even he didn't go to a D-1 school.
January 27th, 2010 at 1:39 AM ^
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirec…
about brandon graham and how he is rising up in the draft
January 27th, 2010 at 2:11 AM ^
Maybe I should go check my mailbox?
January 27th, 2010 at 3:43 AM ^
Good motor, plays intense but really light for a DE (215 lbs). I think RR should be much more selective in the 2011 class though and focus on the highest priorities until we're out of the picture for them. Then we can move to plan B instead of starting with it.
January 27th, 2010 at 4:23 AM ^
He lives in the backfield, and with a year of redshirt, he'll fill out nicely
January 27th, 2010 at 8:39 AM ^
I like the slow play technique and explosiveness, but I have a bit of a problem with all the arm tackles he makes.. I dont think hell be able to pull down many B10 Q's or RBs like that..
That being said, thats about the only concern I have about this, and thats just a tweak with some coaching. He looks like a potential beast.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:21 AM ^
I'm confused, why are we recruiting defense? Rich Rod has no idea what he is doing!
January 27th, 2010 at 9:37 AM ^
The competition at Plymouth is not that bad. I think some of you are going over the edge with that assumption.