Durkin: Lots of room for improvement on defense
Apparently Durkin won't be satisfied until we figure out a way to hold teams to negative points.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/09/dj_durkin_michigans_no_2-ranke.html#incart_river
"People can get caught up in statistics and obviously there were some good stats coming out of that last game, and the last couple, but we can make a lot of improvement,"
September 29th, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^
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September 29th, 2015 at 10:37 AM ^
Agreed. That leaves opponents at 3rd and 4. That's right on schedule. It's too short.
Every 3rd down needs to be 3rd and 10+.
C'mon defense, step it up. You're pathetic so far.
September 29th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^
opponents at 3rd and 6, or 4th and 4.
September 29th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^
Why is a cat chemistry professor asking this?
September 29th, 2015 at 4:24 PM ^
You doubt the mathematical prowess of cat chemists?
September 29th, 2015 at 11:46 PM ^
probability of double posts?
September 29th, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^
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September 29th, 2015 at 9:28 AM ^
September 29th, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^
FIRE HARBAUGH!
September 29th, 2015 at 9:47 AM ^
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September 29th, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^
September 29th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
He should be all over this, yet he just stands there and claps.
September 29th, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
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September 29th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
Alright, I'm intrigued. Who was this?
September 29th, 2015 at 1:58 PM ^
"Ha ha" funny, or "Oh shit, I'm locked in a room with psychos" funny?
September 29th, 2015 at 4:17 PM ^
More like "Why does the milk smell funny?"
September 29th, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^
I doubt he waits long for a big head coach offer.
September 29th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^
for Durkin and Drevno. 700k for Mattison.
But I agree, I think we're going to start seeing assistant coach turnover every year. Harbaugh will probably build a coaching tree similar to, or even better than, Bo's.
September 29th, 2015 at 9:52 AM ^
Wasn't Bo's coaching tree pretty terrible? Carr had never been a head coach anywhere and Gary Moeller had failed at Illinois. Doesn't sound like there was much of a successful tree to chose from.
September 29th, 2015 at 9:57 AM ^
September 29th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^
I wouldn't say great success. Coming off of two straight 4 loss seasons, many were calling for his job. Some believe the incident was caused because people wanted him out.
September 29th, 2015 at 9:59 AM ^
Branches: Bill McCartney (Colorado), Larry Smith (USC), Jack Harbaugh (Western Kentucky), Gary Moeller (Indiana, Michigan), Lloyd Carr (Michigan), Les Miles (LSU), Jim Harbaugh, etc.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
Minor quibble, I know.
I'll add that three of those guys had a national title (Miles, McCartney and Carr).
September 29th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
September 29th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
September 29th, 2015 at 10:02 AM ^
Les Miles, Cam Cameron, Lloyd, Mo, Jack Harbaugh, Bill McCartney, Don Nehlen, Jim Young, Larry Smith, etc.
More than a few Hall of Fame, and future Hall of Fame, coaches worked for Bo.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:19 AM ^
While he didn't actually coach under him, you could argue that Harbaugh is from the Bo coaching tree.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^
He absolutely is.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^
Be careful with that logic as you could extend it to also this guy....
September 29th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
played for Bo.
September 29th, 2015 at 11:49 AM ^
Hoke is a branch from Carr who is a branch from Bo. A family tree doesn't just cover two generations.
September 29th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
those who played or coached for the man in question as part of their coaching tree. Once a man becomes a HC himself he starts his own tree. Ergo, Hoke is part of Carr's tree, not Bo's.
By the way you define it, there's two coaching trees that consist of Yost and Walter Camp.
September 29th, 2015 at 5:15 PM ^
Which is why we have two families in football: those of house Offense and those of house Defense.
September 30th, 2015 at 11:31 AM ^
but most everyone else understands that a tree has limbs which has branches etc. etc. etc.
See examples of Bill Walsh's coaching tree here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+walsh+coaching+tree&biw=1010&bih=8…
I don't see one of those images that is limited to only his direct offshoots.
When a branch of a tree becomes significant (Bo versus Woody) then yes, I agree you start a new tree, but Bo is still part of Woody's tree.
Half of Ara Paraseghian's coaching tree is actually Bo's tree:
http://spec.lib.miamioh.edu/cradleofcoaches/files/thumbnails/50a9876b3d…
September 29th, 2015 at 11:39 AM ^
We'll never know how much of what we saw on the field was Hoke and how much was David Brandon. As someone who loves redemption stories, I hope Hoke succeeds somewhere else down the road. If he decides to go the Wayne Fontes route, disappear, and live off of what he made, I hope he enjoys his retirement.
September 29th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^
Honestly, he'd probably be a pretty awesome D-Line coach at a major school and a major asset when it comes to recruiting. I hope he stays in his lane for his own sake.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:03 AM ^
I know I will forget many of them but there were some great guys that coached with Bo. Nehlen at WV, James at Washington, Mallory at Indiana. McCartney at Colorado. Also Miles played for Bo and got his coaching start under Bo. I will think of more today I'm sure. And Moeller would be a great coach anywhere that gave him half a chance to be successful.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^
At least according to Wikipedia (link), he was DC at Michigan--but under Bump Elliot in 1966 and 1967. He was never at Miami (NTM) or any of the schools where Bo was an assistant.
September 29th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^
he wasn't all that sucessful but I think that Young was the coach in the Rose Bowl after Bo had the heartattack?
September 29th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^
and was pretty successful at Arizona
September 29th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
He had a long list of coaches throughout his tenure that went on to be head coaches at major programs. Yes, some were more successful than others. But overall, they collectively had a very impressive track record. I'd say Carr's coaching tree was far less successful on the whole.
Harbaugh will definitely have regular turnover on his staff. He tends to hire somewhat younger guys with a big upside. Durkin will most certainly be moving on at some point. And I'd guess within 2-3 years for sure. Wheatley is another one who will probably move on to a higher level job. We'll see with Drevno and Fisch.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^
Based on what? Gary Moeller won at Michigan like nobody's business. Lloyd Carr is a member of the college Hall of Fame both for his record and national championship.
Lloyd was head coach fewer years than an assistant under Bo. And he was hired on Moeller's advice.
McCartney and Miles, both Bo assistants, have won NCs. And, of course, Jim Harbaugh's dad, is part of the Schembechler root system and won an NC at Western Kentucky University.
There are many other great names I am leaving off.
September 29th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^
Don Nehlen: all-time winningest coach at WVU, got the Mountaineers to a NC game
Les Miles: Very successful at Okie St and LSU; won NC at LSU
Bill McCartney: great success at Colorado; won NC with Buffaloes
Lloyd Carr: Won NC at Michigan
Not to mention a large number of other assistants who had good amounts of success at Michigan and elsewhere.
I'll bet the number of head coaches with four former assistants to win 3 NCs and play for a fourth is pretty damn small.
September 29th, 2015 at 2:07 PM ^
Plus, there's no shame in failing at Illinois. That place is a coach-killer. Bill Parcells couldn't get them to a Big Ten championship.
September 29th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^
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September 29th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^
I believe he waited because he didn't want to take over a MAC-like program (save the Pitt jokes).
September 29th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^
September 29th, 2015 at 9:47 AM ^
I see Jedd Fisch as being one of the 1st ot go, perhaps to a full time OC role, or back to the nfl
September 29th, 2015 at 9:52 AM ^
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