Get A Life Comment Count

Brian

The last couple days have seen a minor internet hubbub about Rich Rodriguez's statement that Michigan fans should "get a life," or something like that. That's all 95% of the people who have seen this story have comprehended. In their minds, Rich Rodriguez sat down at a press conference and said "everyone who's upset about 3-8 needs to get a life."

He did not.

On Saturday someone posted this on Rivals:

"Way to tough it out McGuffie. Maybe his little fingers were cold?"

Someone else posted this on Scout:

"I've never been more excited for senior day

goodbye and good riddance."

No links, as both are locked behind paywalls (and the Rivals one is probably lost in the ether by now) but it's not like anyone familiar with the depravity you can find on any message board more confrontational than Hello Kitty Forever is surprised by this genre of comment. You could dig them up on most message boards after a horrific loss. I do it on a weekly basis

The men who said these things are in need of anger management or a kitten or something to do after a loss other than get so angry steam comes out their ears and they post stuff about amateurs their mother would slap them for. You might describe this something as a "life."

Rich Rodriguez was asked about them because all years of struggle must be followed by stock question #49: "Do you read the horrible things written about you on the internet?" Rodriguez responds:

This is a public position. It's not like a politician, I'm not running for office. I mean, God bless them. They choose to have that public scrutiny. As coaches, we know it's part of the job, but we don't choose to have it. Most of us would rather not.

But the biggest thing that is disappointing is when somebody, not necessarily the media, but when a fan or somebody would make it personal to your coach or to your players. Especially to the players, because those guys are amateurs. When they would make a personal comment or say something that's not related to coaching or not related to playing.

I don't get on message boards. I don't think anybody, any of our players or family should. But it's amazing some of the things that people would say or amazing things people will yell at you of a personal nature. You almost want to tell them get a life. I mean, there's a whole lot bigger problems. You lose a ballgame, and then you look at the economy or after every game I usually get to meet one of our veterans or somebody. You know, to take it personal on a coach or player to me, I don't think it's ever right.

But I'm glad fans have passion, but it's still kind of  I guess a lot more bolder. You all would know. It's a lot more bolder what people would say and write. Not you all, but bloggers or whatever, than it used to be. We've seen it coming for a few years.

Absolutely, right? The saddest thing about the internet is this sort of anonymous hatred. I love the internet. It gave me a writing outlet and a job and online scrabble. But, man, trawling through message boards after a loss in search of some scrap of useful news and/or analysis is depressing. It kills my productivity. It makes me want to do something else. And it's because of these little hate factories that just lose their head and spew.*

Here Rodriguez talks about this, gives a reasonable answer across four paragraphs, and even manages to conclude it with "but I'm glad fans have passion."  He is obviously talking about that small segment of the fanbase that runs to post bile on the internet and almost seems happier when the team loses. Guess which part of this four-paragraph response got put in an AP story?

“It’s amazing some of the things that people would say (on a message board) or yell at you of a personal nature,” Rodriguez said Monday. “You almost want to tell them, `Get a life.’

“There’s a whole lot bigger problems. Look at the economy.”

Cue sarcastic responses from around the internet. Here's one from increasingly retarded Deadspin:

He's right. The economy is dreadful in the Great Lakes State right now. That's probably why your fans don't like paying $60 a pop to watch your comically inept offense destroy everything they hold dear. Or that their school had to pay $2.5 million to West Virginia University just to get you out of the contract you bailed on. Or that you're earning another $2.5M to deliver the most losses in school history. (And they have a lot of history.) One fan even has to sell his allegiance to pay the rent.

That guy's a Michigan State fan, so fine. I get that I have to think Mark Dantonio is a ridiculous insecure hothead who is just so perfectly Sparty No(!)* and this guy has to think Rich Rodriguez is a heartless mercenary cheerleader-nailing guy.

Then there's this from Kevin Donahue (emphasis mine):

I have just four letters for Coach Rod: STFU.

Is it unthinkable to this college football fan that the one guy who cashed in more than anyone else in this sport in the last twelve months would dare question the passion of fans. Hey d-face, you are where you are today BECAUSE fans care about this game.

I'm not even a Michigan fan... and this pisses me off BIG TIME.

Rich Rodriguez takes some time to talk about the internet's depressing tendency towards mocking and anger in some depth. The media takes the three sentences sure to generate the most outrage and create the dumbest image of Rodriguez, and the internet responds with mocking and anger.

I mean… what can you even say here? The way information spreads is messed up. Thanks to the restrictions of newshole the AP writer has to snip out 90% of what Rodriguez says. He picks the lines sure to cause commotion when taken out of context. Thanks to the epic fail of the newspaper industry, everyone with the story headlines it as sensationally as possible in order to get their OMG hits. Given the opportunity to whack the piñata, the internet does so. The whole thing is depressing from stem to stern.

You know, the media complained for 13 years about how gruff and inaccessible Lloyd Carr was. Then they get a guy like Rodriguez who's far more open and they heap crap on him. The net impact of this will be to make Rodriguez gruff and inaccessible.

I don't understand. Unless you assume that the people running newspapers cannot model the future beyond tomorrow's newspaper, it makes no sense. Oh. Ohhhhh. It appears I do understand.

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*(The comments here can be vicious at times because there is a cabal of people committed to relentlessly policing stupidity. Sometimes I wish it didn't have to be like that, but when I go read comments other places I am swiftly disabused of that notion. The cost in lack of civility to people outside the tribe is far outweighed by the maintenance of a coherent identity. No regular here would dare post the things that lead off this post and if they did they would be ridiculed by a dozen people before I had the opportunity to deploy the banhammer. This has happened multiple times. Everything I delete already has several responses asking the poster to FOAD.)

**(Okay, seriously: seriously. No, seriously: if Michigan wins on Saturday Michigan State plays Penn State for a trip to the Rose Bowl. Which is THE ROSE BOWL. Dantonio's response to the question "are you rooting for Michigan?"

"I'm not rooting for Michigan… I have too many good friends and too many people that wouldn't let me back into their house to let me do that. So Go Bucks."

Seriously. Sparty, man. Sparty.)

Comments

caup

November 19th, 2008 at 1:13 PM ^

The Detroit MSM was incredibly lenient on Carr after some colossal, idiotic fuck-ups to blow games. On the other hand, they go out of their way to crucify RR. Amazing. And disgusting.

evenyoubrutus

November 19th, 2008 at 1:13 PM ^

It's a crime that this has happened to Rodriguez. Valenti did this same thing on 97.1FM on Monday, only playing the part where he talks about fans "getting a life" and then goes on his typical Valentian holier-than-thou tirade, acting as though RichRod has no idea what he's gotten himself into, and that he is acting like 3-8 is not a big deal. And if fans call in to disagree with him he yells his head off and calls them stupid tools et cetera and drops them. It's amazing what people with a microphone and an agenda against somebody are able to accomplish. Perhaps you should write an editorial in the Ann Arbor News.

UMaD

November 19th, 2008 at 1:20 PM ^

"people running newspapers cannot model the future beyond tomorrow's newspaper" Sadly, this isn't limited to newspapers but includes television media. Noam Chomsky refuses to go on any major television show that won't give him uninterrupted talk time because he knows his arguments can't be edited down to a few sentences and the medium demands it to satisfy short attention spans and simple minds. No matter what you think of him, you can respect him for refusing to play the game - kind of like Lloyd. In regards to media, this is our own fault for what we choose to consume. One solution - don't read or listen to people who have demonstrated themselves to be idiots. Not you though Brian, I want you to read them and keep pointing out how stupid they are. I consider Unverified a public service, and damn entertaining at that. The lack of long range vision also applies to many publicly held businesses geared towards maximizing share price in the short term.

TinCup

November 19th, 2008 at 1:23 PM ^

Nice post dude. I agree. I have gotten in the gutter of the Freep comments section after Mich losses and the things I read amaze me. The hate and the venom is mind blowing. I know we (as in Wolverine Nation) are down right now. But I never realized just how much Sparty, the Bucks and the Golden Domers hated us. And just love us being in misery. Their fan base (or a derivative thereof) make up 90% of the hateful anti Michigan comments that exist out there. I laughed my ass of in disbelief when reading Sparty's comments that they would rather see Michigan lose than have a chance for the Rosebowl. Wtf? Sports and rivalries tend to bring out the worst in people. I was at an MSU v Mich. basketball game in the old Jennison Field House in the late 80's and heard grown men taunt Terry Mills and Rumeal Robinson with chants of "Proposition 48." How sad is that? Grown men disparaging kids because of learning disabilities. Sadly, I heard the same chants in the student section of Michigan Stadium against former ND QB Tony Rice. So, long story short, the idiots are everywhere. Hopefully this place stays idiot free (for the most part).

evenyoubrutus

November 19th, 2008 at 1:33 PM ^

It's odd, because I remember last year after about the midpoint of the season, nobody was talking about Notre Dame. Whatever their horrible start was, it was worse than Michigan's. But by mid-October no one talked about them. Now, the season has just a few weeks to go (in M's case, one game) and people won't stop piling on Michigan.

WolvinLA

November 19th, 2008 at 3:37 PM ^

I'm sure there are plenty of idiots who read MGoBlog, it's just that if and when they post they get ripped to shreds here. If there are really bad and keep it up, they get banned. That's what keeps it nice.

DrDetroit

November 19th, 2008 at 2:04 PM ^

This is a brilliant move on his part for a number of reasons. 1. It helps him with his fan base. Yes, the Spartan hatred for Michigan is hugely impressive. 2. It actually helps his team. If Michigan State has to play USC in the Rose Bowl they would get f'n obliterated. However, playing in the Capitol One bowl or other non-BCS bowl provides Sparty a great chance for victory. When the hell is the last time MSU won a bowl game? This would be huge for them to finally get a win. It would be a nice recruiting tool for their program and a good second year for Dantonio. Getting crush in the Rose Bowl would not be. In another couple of years it'd be a different story, but right now Sparty isn't loaded with talent to take on the likes of USC.

WolvinLA

November 19th, 2008 at 2:31 PM ^

So they should go to the Capital One bowl and play Georgia? I wouldn't say they have any better chance of beating them, unless 2% is really better than 1%. MSU is an above average team with a weak record thanks to mostly weak OOC opponents and a weak conference where they missed 2 above average teams in Minnesota and Illinois. Even if they lose to PSU they will be way overmatched in whatever bowl game they go to. I'd rather play in the Rose Bowl and lose than play in a non-BCS game and lose by less.

TorontoBlue

November 19th, 2008 at 3:21 PM ^

this is OSU week, and hardly anyone is talking about actual football. could this have been RR's intention all along? was he doing a classic Bobby Knight tactic of deflecting all the attention away from his players and onto himself - while at the same time crafting a sneaky new game plan while everyone is distracted with the irrelevant stuff in the media?