Michael Onewnu still taking visits
Looks like Michael Onewnu is still taking visits despite committing.
Definitely unsettling but maybe not so bad:
"I'll still be going on my visits," Onwenu said, adding that he'll be visiting some schools "down south" over the summer but not sure where he intends to visit yet.
As uneasy as that might make Wolverines fans feel, Onwenu made sure to add that he doesn't "have anyone in second right now," referring to Michigan being the only school he has intentions of attending after his upcoming senior year.
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Fuck.
Shut up.
Can't blame you for being honest
Thanks, Spicy.
I don't find this unsettling. Kids should take their visits and enjoy them.
But should do so before committing. You should commit after you have seen everything and have had time to digest and contrast/compare.
If your visiting still, IMO, your not committed. We just lead.
Pretty sure Hoke was in the minority when it comes to policy about commits visiting other schools...
You don't keep dating after you get engaged. Seems like when you commit, you should commit. If you want to shop, then shop around, and commit when you're done shopping
Saying stuff like that makes you sound insecure...
to me, it makes him/her sound like he/she has a command of the English language and knows the meanings of words like, "commit."
but you can call me Caitlyn now
I've never met someone named Bordon before, male or female.
Regarding Caitlyn, I thought for sure she would spell that with a "K" to fit in with the rest of that group. Probably just another subtle dig at Kris Jenner.
OH BURN
But what does committing do for a recruit? Does it guarantee them a scholarship? Does it guarantee them the coaching staff will be there next year? Does it guarantee them certain promises will be kept?
So if a recruit knows Michigan is where they want to be under the current circumstances, why shouldn't they "commit"? And in case things change, wouldn't it be wise for them to have a backup plan?
Maybe you should look up the definition of commit also. Saying you are going to a school and then taking visits to other schools you are interested in attending isn't "committing" in any sense of the word. Committing to a school means you won't look at other schools and they stop recruiting for your spot. If someone commits but says they will look at other schools, the coaching staff will be completely fine recruiting and taking actual commits from people who have evaluated schools and want to go to Michigan. I hope he is very comfortable not going to Michigan in case the coaches get some commits at his position before he stops taking his visits. I'm not saying that is plausible, but it is possible in that type of situation
I'll reiterate for the reading impaired...
"So if a recruit knows Michigan is where they want to be under the current circumstances, why shouldn't they "commit"? And in case things change, wouldn't it be wise for them to have a backup plan?"
I got your point, but what you are describing isn't a commitment. I absolutely agree they should have a backup plan....before they commit.
This is the situation where the recruit has the most leverage, the rest of the student-athlete rules are mostly in favor of the school. And honestly does it matter if the recruit commited now or later? They can always decommit, so a commitment only means as much as the person behind it.
One final question, so if the top rated recruit wanted to commit to UM, but will still take additional visits, you would still be against his "commitment"?
how recruiting actually works. A player can 100% commit to a school, not take visits, not even take calls from other coaches and then get screwed over in the end if the school decides not to honor that scholarship offer.
Committing early like this has virtually no downside and lots of upside for the player. Harbaugh apparently doesn't mind, so I don't see why we should.
Other than not being qualified, could you name the last player to which Michigan football extended a scholarship offer and then subesquently pulled it back?
But there is no upside either. If both player and team can look elsewhere, then the only upside it has for a player is that he lets the team know they are at the top of the list. His commitment is what others call his list.
We should all be insecure when it comes to recruiting - flips happen all the time. Hell, we had the #1 class in the country last year just in decommitments.
I thought Hoke's policy was a little too strict, but I liked the essence of it. If you aren't committed to me, I won't be committed to you. Go ahead and take visits, but if someone comes along in the meantime who wants to be committed, I'll be giving them your spot.
You assume that whenever a recruit goes on a visit, it is b/c they are looking for something better. And before you say I am assuming the opposite, I'll say that some are looking for better, and some are just taking advantage of a free trip. But to "punish" everyone is not the way I would do business in this scenario.
They're 18. Let them enjoy the unique opportunities afforded them.
Just dont say "I'm committed to the University of _________" when you're clearly still looking around to see if you like something else better. That's not a commitment, that's just naming a leader
Agreed. No one is saying don't go visit or that kids should not enjoy the experience, they should. However, that is not a COMMITMENT to say that you are committed, but I will still go look and visit. Finish your visits and then commit.
I hope then JH views the commitment the same way, in that he still recruits other kids for that same "committed" spot, because there is no real commitment with the kids. This was one of the topics Hoke had correct.
I agree. You can't have it both ways. This is like a college guy telling a girl he wants to be exclusive, then also saying he wants to enjoy being a college guy when he goes and sleeps with other girls. If you want to enjoy the process, get that out of your system before you commit.
In my mind, no kid who is taking visits is committed. As long as Onwenu says he's still taking visits, he's not a commit for my purposes.
Seriously. If you want a trip, go on a vacation. Tuscaloosa is not that great this time of year.
You mean like playing for the greatest football team that ever existed or will exist?
comparing marriage (generallly a lifelong commitment) to choice of colleges is an unfair comparison.
You mean, before people get engaged they're not dating 10 of the most beautiful people in the country at the same time, with their pick of who they want to marry? That's crazy talk.
So if I commited and enrolled in one school, but took online classes while still enrolled in the school I commited to, does that make me a cheating bastard?
When you attend and play for the University of Michigan, you are a Micigan Man for life. Both are lifelong commitment.
No, but you can still go to Vegas and enjoy a hell of a bachelor party.
Let the kid party!
Damn, you just trumped that worn out analogy.
Commit is just the word that's commonly used in recruiting. It doesn't have the exact same meaning as in some other circumstances. We could use accepting an offer or reserving a place instead. They're more accurate, but we're stuck with commit.
It's up to the other side to agree on the conditions. If Harbaugh is willing to take commitments from players who tell him they still want to look around, maybe your beef is with him. Look on the bright side, maybe Onwenu will spend those visits recruiting for Michigan.
I think that, policy aside, if you're going to take visits after commiting to a school, it sends a pretty clear message that you're not 100% committed.
But not fully committed.
We need another category to track.
from other schools. Some recruits shut that contact down after committing, but most don't. Expecting kids to be 100% committed is unrealistic most of the time.
Implode from all the Harbaugh can't recruit posts.
Harbaugh is not scared of competition. Before or after the commitment. We are going to prove that Michigan deserves to be #1 from day one of your recruitment until the day that the ink is dry.
If he committed to Michigan yesterday we know where his heart lies. I'd be much more concerned if he decided to do this after being with us for a long time.
stance? It doesn't seem like it's as strict as Hoke's
Harbaugh has no policy or restriction at all on kids taking visits elsewhere after commiting.
"Set a bird free and it comes back it is yours. Set a bird free and it doesn't return it never was yours." -Harbaugh
#confidence
I don't have a problem with guys taking visits when they are commited.
While I don't begrudge anyone the opportunity to get wined and dined, I'll take this as a "soft" commitment at best and hope the coaches have a plan "B" in place.
Onwenu is an exciting prospect and I'd love to have him join the program but I do wonder why you would "commit" anywhere and then go look around if you're not sure. It's not like he was about to lose his spot and there was pressure on him to reserve it.
We're assuming he's looking around, not taking advantage of "official visits" to get an expense paid trip to various places. I know I sure as hell would have done so if I had been a recruit.