April 10th, 2015 at 10:04 PM ^
Maryland loses only Wells--unless you are counting Smotrych--that isn't more than Dawson and Trice. Everyone else is back. Plus add Georgia Tech transfer Carter who averaged 14 ppg and almost 9 rpg. Plus 5 star Macdonald's All-American, Diamond Stone, plus one of the top junior college players.
MSU and Maryland are the certain favorites next year. We will be right there if we get Caris back or add Brown---and competitive even if we don't.
April 11th, 2015 at 12:44 AM ^
Lose 3 of their top 5 players (by minutes played per game). That includes Smotrycz.
Wells is a better player than either Dawson or Trice and will be harder for them to replace.
I forgot about Carter Jr, so that's obviously a big deal. The JUCO kid sounds like he'll be a backup/3rd guard type. Stone is obviously a huge deal too, but he's only 1 spot ahead of Swanigan in the ESPN rankings.
Maryland's going to be really good, but young. If Caris come back, I'd lump UM and uh...UM in the group just below MSU.
I realize the national consensus has Maryland above MSU but I think that has more to do with the big names (Stone/Tremble) than the reality of MSU bringing back a load of experienced seniors to go with the best freshman haul of talent they've had in a long time..
April 13th, 2015 at 12:30 AM ^
Wells isn't better than Trice and Dawson combined--maybe marginally more valuable than either individually, but Wells didn't show up every game either. Also, after the big 3, five players essentially made similar contributions and minutes--seniors Smotrych and Pack--and 2 freshman and a sophomore. Maryland loses only Wells for practical purposes. They should be better next year than this year.
Yes, that is his name. And he's the #2 C in the country who committed to the Terps over Wisconsin.
Rick are you getting Carl more pudding?
April 10th, 2015 at 10:45 PM ^
he's slow and oversized
April 10th, 2015 at 11:30 PM ^
He'd probably be considered a one and done if he hadn't reinstated to this class. I think he'll be underwhelming in year one and then dominate in year two and declare.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:31 PM ^
He'd probably be considered a one and done if he hadn't reinstated to this class. I think he'll be underwhelming in year one and then dominate in year two and declare.
We have to retain Levert AND get Jalen Brown/ Jamal Murray/ Kenny Williams to keep pace.
you know why
if it were football I would care
This post really is bringing out the low hanging fruit of our fanbase, the reactions saying rent a player and Izzo is dirty are just dumb. If we had room we'd gladly take him for a year. How is Izzo dirty? I hate Sparty as much as the next guy but how are these proper reactions. Aren't we trying to get Jaylen Brown??? I would of thought Kentucky for sure, with all the departures.
Good for them, see you on the court.
I wonder what Chicago State fans thought their chances were? Odd school to be in the running: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/185…
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Someone must be pretty butt hurt in this thread with all the downvotes with anything negative toward Izzo.
Izzo, is that you?
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I watched some of his film. He's certainly a load and can finish with either hand; but he seems really slow and doesn't have the best footwork IMO. He seems to have a nice jumper but of course they don't show the misses on a highlight film, eh?
ditto - seems sluggish
Sounds like a dream Izzo recruit - big enough to knock college kids around, unlikely to develop to the point he could flee to the NBA.
Izzo will have a hand in not developing him for the NBA.
Impossible to have that many high ranked guys that literally have no NBA future without the coach being responsible for it.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:42 PM ^
Paul Davis and Kelvin Torbert are the two that come to mind. They've only had like nine guys who were ranked highly enough coming out of HS that anybody would have expected them to play in the NBA.
April 11th, 2015 at 12:15 AM ^
Yes, it benefits UM not to have Izzo develope players for the NBA. They can have all the Final Fours they want, just as long as they don't have players leave early for the NBA.
This is very wize thinking--it benefits us greatly.
Swanigan looks like Zack Randolph/Derrick Nix combo. Not nearly as good as Randolph,but better than Nix. Big body that's not overly athletic and a little clumsy.A 6'8 Center he will not be a one n done or dominate at the college level.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:18 AM ^
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Why has the OP been downvoted?
This news means Jaylen Brown-to-Michigan is absolutely still in play, because it was being reported that Jaylen Brown/Caleb Swanigan/Ivan Rabb to Cal was very much in motion (to the point that some insiders were saying it was definitely happening).
He will be a big body that grabs boards. Scoring ten a night will be gravy. He is perfect for what Izzo does. He would not work well in Michigan's system,
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Can barely dunk? He has a 9 foot 1 inch standing reach. Might be short for a center but he has really long arms.
of deep tournament runs in recruiting... must be nice :). let's hope we finish with brown or kenny.
don't get that people saying "oh well it's just basketball" at all
big get for MSU they are a top 5-10 team to start season and i think are deeper than maryland.
The guy probably bought the fake recruiting pitch that he can leave after one year. Then Izzo will trash him repeteadly and say he isn't close to being ready.
Izzo will manipulate his playing him and development (rather lack of development) and he will end up being another highly ranked guy that washes out.
Rinse and repeat.
Wake the fuck up people. We never had more talent during the 2011-2014 seasons and went 6-2 versus them with 2 sweeps.
We would have won both games this year if we had Caris Levert and Derrick Walton.
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Annoying as it is, Izzo is a great coach and there was always going to be some sort of recruiting gain for him from this final four run. It's not like MSU was going away, Michigan's team is just going to have to raise it's game and as we've seen over the past few years that is soemthing they can do. Besides it's more fun to beat MSU when they're good.
And potential one-and-dones are OK now too, and no longer the scourge of college basketball. Got it.
Izzo also had no interest in transfers, then took two last year....
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April 10th, 2015 at 11:00 PM ^
Of course he got some 5 stars after his Final Four run I mean look at how many we got after ours... er... ooops.