Weis has cleaned out his office
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/28/source-weis-has-cleaned…
Did a search of the board and did not find this posted. As if this wasn't going to happen anyways.... Weis has cleaned out his office and has been told that he must fly back with the team instead of hit the recruiting trail... I will miss making fun of him.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:32 AM ^
doesn't mean the jokes have to stop.
November 29th, 2009 at 1:07 PM ^
polished off all the remaining donuts in the Krispy Kreme boxes?
November 29th, 2009 at 2:36 AM ^
I flat out don't believe this. It has all the marks of a Michael Wilbon-esque deep throat story - cryptic, unfalsifiable source, a dumb typo in the linked story, citation of vague circumstantial evidence.
I don't want it to be true, either - the prospect of ND getting a good coach is a real scary one.
November 29th, 2009 at 8:44 AM ^
But their in the same situation we are. Even if Urban Meyer went their it would take at least 2 years before they even think about a bowl again. And by that time RR will have us firing on all cylinders. I welcome challenges of good teams when we are good as well it makes the game more fun and its worth a lot more when you win those type of games.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:19 AM ^
If we're going to question stories because of their lack of spelling, we should watch ourselves.
It appears there needs to be a lesson on their vs there vs they're.
Their is a plural possessive.
There is a place or a direction.
They're is a contraction of they and are and indicates being.
Their house. Car. Whatever. It belongs to them.
There it is. Santa's Sleigh. It's over in that direction or that place.
But THEY'RE in the same situation we are. THEIR team blows and even Urban Meyer would take a couple years to turn it around. Bet he's down THERE in Florida.
Three different words that sound the same but have meanings that are nowhere near similar.
Learn it.
Love it.
Live it.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:16 AM ^
The spelling comment was sort of a joke.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:18 AM ^
but one of the things that irritates me the most and makes me think of uneducated hillbilly is the inability to use the proper word. When there are homonyms and someone doesn't know which one to use and proceeds to use the wrong one, it causes me to feel grief toward our educational system.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:00 PM ^
could just be a typo. you probably aren't the only one who passed 4th grade.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:03 PM ^
for the reminder.
It's been a long long time since 4th grade engrish.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:04 PM ^
it's never too late to educate yourself, hillbilly
November 29th, 2009 at 2:37 AM ^
I can see him walking out with the old cardboard box and on top of it is a picture of him and Brady Quinn, and a thank you note to Ty willingham for letting him have two good seasons. I doubt he took the time to clean out the refrigerators in his office, he probably let the cleaning staff do that...
November 29th, 2009 at 2:41 AM ^
Speaking of....I bet they will be finding snacks in that office for years to come...Ones that Charlie had hidden but didn't manage to devour.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:13 AM ^
That comment was just begging for a Heavyweights reference, so here ya go:
November 30th, 2009 at 10:16 AM ^
Kind of ironic, isn't it?
Domer fans spent so much time complaining about how Willingham left the cupboard bare for Weis and yet Weis' only two good seasons at ND were with teams composed almost entirely of Ty's recruits as the starters.
I am certainly NOT saying (writing, technically) that Willingham did a good job in recruiting, because he didn't, but it seems pretty clear that it really doesn't matter what kind of players Weis has at his disposal; he is just a lousy head coach.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:40 AM ^
The man can really run a good offense. But he just isn't head coaching material I guess. It really has been a lot of fun to make fun of him though. I'm not really a fan of all the "fat Charlie" jokes...we aren't in elementary school after all. But that 38-0 beating of Notre Dame after the two games from hell to start the 2007 season provided a much needed shot in the arm and some much needed jokes at Charlie and Jimmay's expense.
That being said, I wish him well as he returns to coach offense somewhere in the NFL.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:43 AM ^
I can think of about 18 million reasons not to feel bad for Charlie Weis...
November 29th, 2009 at 12:10 PM ^
I agree completely. Charlie Weis has never demonstrated much ability even as an offensive coach (as Jon Chait pointed out, his offenses even on the great patriots teams were mostly mediocre). More importantly, he's an arrogant turd. Ever since he arrived at ND he has acted like he walks on water and it is entirely just, in my opinion, that his self-satisfaction be rewarded with failure and shame. I only regret that he is such a delusional megalomaniac that it will probably not have much affect on his ego.
From Chait's article in Slate:
The giant edifice of fraud that is Weis' reputation is actually a series of smaller frauds piled on top of each other. The foundational myth is that he was a brilliant offensive coordinator. Weis came from the New England Patriots, who had just won a Super Bowl. Every player and coach associated with a Super Bowl winner is usually subjected to a certain level of hype, and Weis is no exception. But Weis was actually quite ordinary. During his eight seasons as a coordinator, six of his teams finished in the bottom half of the league in total offense. Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has graciously shared credit for his success with Weis, even though the Patriots offense has been dramatically better—seventh in the league, on average—since Weis left.
The myth grew after Weis was appointed at Notre Dame and started proclaiming his own brilliance. He told his players, "Every game you will have a decided schematic advantage." After struggling to salvage his first recruiting class, he announced to the press, "Now it's time for the X's and O's. Let's see who has the advantage now."
November 29th, 2009 at 3:04 PM ^
...for calling Weis an "arrogant turd."
November 29th, 2009 at 4:38 PM ^
I simply cannot picture Weis walking on water.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:42 AM ^
Did he clean out the fridge too?
Anyway...dont feel bad for Charlie, he can call plays and will be back as an OC in the NFL soon....just not a HC.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:54 AM ^
Charlie deserves all the jokes that come his way after declaring he would put a mean and nasty team on the field with a decided schematic advantage. Of all the things this man eats I am certain that humble pie is now part of his diet.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:23 AM ^
Well he was kind of right... this year ND's offense played like it had an advantage and the defense was nasty.
I think he'll be eating a lot of pies alone in the dark in the future wondering what could have been if his defense didn't suck balls during his big year.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:53 AM ^
lol.. I'm glad their defense sucked.. after all the hyping up they did with Tenuta....
hell.. some of you guys were drooling over the guy when the whole Les/Tenuta combo started flying around.. How the times change.. Now I'm glad we didn't get either..
November 29th, 2009 at 4:41 AM ^
I actually do feel sorry for him.
November 29th, 2009 at 1:02 PM ^
I was actually thinking the same thing, and I feel a little bad for the guy, but can't feel THAT bad:
1) The guy is going to make some serious cash from the buyout
2) He was a total asshole and only started showing humility in the twilight of his college coaching career.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:09 PM ^
Weis may be showing humility, but I think it's as much of a fraud as his reputation as an "offensive genius." I think the humility he shows is actually a calculated persona that will make sure he doesn't void his buyout.
As soon as the money is in his pocket, Weis will resume being the same insufferable boor that he is, was, and always will be.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:56 AM ^
Well, at least we'll always have this...
November 29th, 2009 at 10:40 AM ^
can sure make a hell of a youtube video!
November 29th, 2009 at 8:34 AM ^
Weis reminds me of Curly in the Three Stooges episode where a rich guy bets that he can turn them into gentlemen and ends up taking them to a high society party. And that's pretty much what Weis really is: a galoot pretending to have class in a place where he doesn't belong.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:16 AM ^
...description of Charlie. Dead on.
November 29th, 2009 at 1:40 PM ^
Or you could say he's an under-appreciated ugly duckling in the form of a middle-aged fat guy from New Jersey that has yet to turn into a beautiful princess.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:33 AM ^
and Stoops is not leaving Ok. Both are superior jobs to ND.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:40 PM ^
They may be superior jobs (I'd debate Oklahoma - to me, coaching has been the difference between them being good and being Notre Dame), but at least in the case of Oklahoma, ND has a lot more money they can use for a football coach. I've read that the odds-on favorite to be the next coach is Stoops. Think about it - he's lost the last how many BCS games, he hasn't done well the past few years against Texas, he did terrible this year (injuries yes, but they still should have out-talented everyone but Texas), and they lose quite a bit going into next year. Now would be a good time for him to get out of Norman.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:45 PM ^
I'm sure Oklahoma can find the money to match/exceed any offer ND makes.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:16 PM ^
Not so certain they want to though
November 29th, 2009 at 3:17 PM ^
With all the talent UM had this year should they have only gotten 5 wins?
November 30th, 2009 at 10:21 AM ^
Get a clue, shitbag. The Irish suck and will for a long time.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:54 AM ^
their own broadcasting network like ND does. Nor are they at or near the top of the list for every HS football player playing at a Catholic school.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:01 AM ^
network, its called CBS.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:56 AM ^
It's more like the Tebow network actually.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:17 AM ^
"Nor are they at or near the top of the list for every HS football player playing at a Catholic school."
This is not nearly as true as it used to be.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:23 AM ^
ND isn't at the top of the list for virtually the entire state of Florida, and every elite player in the southeast, like Florida.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:31 AM ^
with good Catholic kids, they won with the same borderline academic ghetto kids everyone else does now. Only now ND doesn't admit those athletes, hence, mediocre football teams.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:27 AM ^
...those borderline academic kids easily got into ND's B School. That helps land some of them, imho. I would probably be tempted to to be a Notre Lamer if I was guaranteed admission into a school's b school. Besides, I'd go to ND just to witness someone cold cock Jimmay in the face! :P
November 29th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^
This argument is way overblown. ND lowers its standards plenty for athletes. How do you think Weis has signed four straight top-5 recruiting classes?
November 29th, 2009 at 3:25 PM ^
Its a case by case basis and that applies to non-athletes as well. That said the limits to their admission are still much higher than the vast majority of their BCS peers. If you think ND will take anyone who can get by the clearinghouse your greatly mistaken
November 29th, 2009 at 12:02 PM ^
it was much easier for Charlie to simply eat all the food that was in his office, rather than move it out.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:34 PM ^
He is how I see it. Browns draft Jimmay and also pick up Weis as the new OC. That way the suck fest that is the browns will continue for years to come.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:49 PM ^
"Stay on the recruiting trail on the west coast" so obviously means "hit up all the In-N-Outs I can before I have to leave this part of the country". West coast NFL teams have a much better chance of signing that man.