OT: Adrian Peterson avoids jail time
Posting this story because of the social commentary aspects, something we engage in from time to time around here. But the story itself (http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/adrian-peterson-avoids-jail-time-in-child-abuse-case/ar-BBcZ9ba) is submitted without comment. Discuss.
November 4th, 2014 at 4:42 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 5:49 PM ^
I traded for him a few weeks ago. Sitting dead last in my keeper league, with my team a steaming pile of shit and this season a lost cause anyway, I figured why not. If he comes back, next year my starting RBs will be AP and Arian Foster. That's a risk I'm willing to take, especially since my team isn't going to improve on its own...
November 4th, 2014 at 4:44 PM ^
People have gotten less for worse.
November 4th, 2014 at 4:48 PM ^
But if he gets the help he needs to properly discipline his children without abuse then I'm fine with it. I still think he shouldn't play in the NFL this season.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:51 PM ^
By current standards, every parent in my neighborhood in the 50's and 60's would have gone to jail.
November 4th, 2014 at 6:40 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 6:49 PM ^
By today's standards, every slave owner in the 1800's would be arrested. How crazy is that??
November 4th, 2014 at 10:44 PM ^
If I could upvote this multiple times, I would. Great analogy. I'm so sick of hearing "but when I was growing up, it was normal/ok/accepted/whatever."
November 5th, 2014 at 9:32 AM ^
People are smarter now than they were then. Seriously, look it up.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:51 PM ^
By current standards, every parent in my neighborhood in the 50's and 60's would have gone to jail.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:01 PM ^
Eh, he was punished for doing something that he grew up understanding as the norm. A fair punishment without ruining his life.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:16 PM ^
agree with you. it was the texts that he sent after he did it really joking and laughing about it that made me really uncomfortable with his state of mind. There was something a little sinister about it. I agree that jail was probably not necessary, not for a first time offender, but the message that should come from it is that "it was not OK, that is never OK whether you grew up with it or not."
November 4th, 2014 at 5:19 PM ^
But what exactly is the punishment here? He got a paid vacation and some community service.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:25 PM ^
In 2014, no matter how you were raised, if you look at your kid and think "It's OK beat this kid with a switch until his legs start to bleed..." What planet are you living on?
November 4th, 2014 at 5:57 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 6:37 PM ^
I don't know that it matters, but I've never heard of that as a traditional punishment.
November 4th, 2014 at 6:41 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 2:32 AM ^
The Spartans and Romans did it traditionally for years.
. . . The more you know . . .
/shivers @ Spartans and hazing traditions
November 4th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^
With the notion of him getting a plea deal and facing a fine, but no additional time away from football. He is a first-time offender, and hopefully has learned what not to do when discliplining your kids. In addition, hopefully this will be a wake-up call for many parents in how they handle their children.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^
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November 4th, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^
sure you have looked at those pictures close enough man. That was not "discipline." It was child abuse. They are not intertwined and they do not overlap.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:20 PM ^
I have absolutely no problem with corporal punishment. I've been disciplined with switches, belts, and other things back in the day. However, looking at the pictures for the first time and the marks/scabs on the boys thigh and back make it apparent to me that this was done purely out of anger and lacking in any kind fo self control.
One thing I will say for my parents is that they never lashed out at me in anger and always knew not to go too far. What AP did was too far.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:22 PM ^
They knew not to go too far, but they hit you with a belt. Does not compute.
November 4th, 2014 at 11:05 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 5:28 PM ^
say that a healthy amount of intense but controlled(and even contrived) anger can be the most effective form of punishment. You can get angry enough to scare the ever living shit out of your kid without touching them and while never losing your head. I agree with you, "corporal punishment" can be accomplished without being abusive, it is just wholly ineffective and kind of a waste of time. So, you can waste your time and be not abusive in the way that you "spank" or you can be abusive and effective in the way that you "beat."
I think the best way is to find a method that can be effective, and legal, at the same time.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:58 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 5:12 PM ^
Why isn't "I grew up with it" an excuse for any other crimes?
November 4th, 2014 at 5:13 PM ^
That's right, man. It was the Manson FAMILY. There had to be kids around there, right?
November 4th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
Good point. With that logic, Donald Sterling could have just been like "what? I don't know no better!"
November 4th, 2014 at 7:17 PM ^
The more posts of yours I read, the more I find myself agreeing with what you have to say.
November 5th, 2014 at 2:39 AM ^
having been raised in a initially poor family, and having spent time around the court system, I know "he was raised within this mindset" is a way judges can deal lenietnly with underprivileged youth. I can understand the upvotes from radicals, but im surprised that in this era of so man "michigan men" who claim to understand the other side, that you have so many uppvotes. Those of us raised in poor conditions know that judges understand our plight.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:26 PM ^
Has there been any kind of comfirmation that those were legit?
November 4th, 2014 at 5:29 PM ^
Yes. The photos were taken from the Houston Police Department 4 days after the incident and have been confirmed by many news outlets as legitimate.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:28 PM ^
I'm not really sure what's the norm in first time felony child abuse indictments, but I read earlier that his plea takes away any mention of it being a domestic assault. IMO there should have been some kind of child protective services monitoring Peterson's relationship with children going forward at the very least.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:36 PM ^
a Bolivian dick to be exact. But I think it's worse cause he's got 7 kids by 5 women. It seems not only like abusive discipline, but also rolling in for a day or two to see this kid or pair of kids, beating them up, and leaving..... His defense of himself would ring truer if he'd made better decisions for himself regarding birth control.
November 4th, 2014 at 6:08 PM ^
Our life's purpose only has a few items on it's list : Getting votes and spreading our seed (bearing offspring), top that list.
November 5th, 2014 at 9:34 AM ^
Life has no other purpose but to perpetuate ennui.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:51 PM ^
and apparently okay to knock out your pregnant fiance'. What kind of world do we live in? Being a celebrity or athlete is the get out jail free card.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:58 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^
Having a good lawyer can't be the whole explanation because it's not like there are genius new arguments to be made in a felony child abuse case. This would have been an easy conviction for a first-year prosecutor. The status itself must carry significant weight.
November 5th, 2014 at 3:25 PM ^
that is about what I would expect for the offense. I mean, if he would have knocked him out, like "beat him like a man" than it would have been a much harsher sentence. At some point it would switch from any kind of domestic assault to flat out felony assault, attempted murder, etc. In this case, a "punishment" gone too far, this is about standard. Second offense would probably be county time, possibly prison but probably not. Third offense he would go to prison.
November 4th, 2014 at 5:55 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 2:48 AM ^
jurisprudence, my friend. A judge is obligated by the law to give a sentence within the minimum/maximum punishment. Dpn't like the law? Vote to change the law-makers. Don't like the juedgement? Change the centuries worth of previous law codes which the judge used to come to his conclusion.
Judges don't make arbitrary decisions.
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November 5th, 2014 at 2:48 AM ^
jurisprudence, my friend. A judge is obligated by the law to give a sentence within the minimum/maximum punishment. Dpn't like the law? Vote to change the law-makers. Don't like the juedgement? Change the centuries worth of previous law codes which the judge used to come to his conclusion.
Judges don't make arbitrary decisions.
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November 5th, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^
November 4th, 2014 at 6:53 PM ^
Have AP and Jameis Winston been talking? Seems like it cause Winston always gets off with it, and looks like AP will do the same. I dont like this... athletes always get let off the hook.
November 4th, 2014 at 7:01 PM ^
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November 4th, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^