Hoke revealed first team OL today (in first padded practice).......
Okay.
EDIT: fixed to not scare people as much
Hoke says first team OL today was Mason Cole LT, Magnuson LG, Miller C, RG Glasgow/Dawson, RT Braden
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) August 8, 2014
I know nothing about football or coaching or line play. But that lineup pisses me off and doesn't make any sense.
...who would you put in?...so you aren't pissed off?
Thats the type of response right there....
I personally don't care who specifically they start, but the constant shuffling and going 180 from what they said was happening even two days ago is what frustrates me. We're running out of practice time to be fucking around with motivational moves if that's what this is. The shuffling the last two years ended up not being that and was from not having good options and forebode doom later, maybe contributed to it in the case of last year. There's no way to sugar coat this, it's extremely alarming any way you cut it.
Isn't this the 3rd practice? Chill out and have faith.
5th actually, 1/4 of fall camp. I think you overestimate the amount of time these guys actually get each week with the coaches and each other, and underestimate the reps it takes to run inside zone effectively against everything defenses can throw at them, or to develop the chemistry with the guys next to you which is also required in a zone blocking OL.
Have faith? You mean like last fall camp?
how when I shared with my brother my excitement that we have Nuss as our new OC he said we'll see the same erratic line changes and lack of development of OL cohesion as last year because that's the OL coach's job.
Still expecting good things, but man, I hope we don't see three different starting O lines in the first three games.
August 8th, 2014 at 11:58 PM ^
This is unfortunately what I all afraid of. I think funk should have been canned with Borges.
August 8th, 2014 at 10:03 PM ^
When the line play simply is not what it should be what is the correct answer? Do you continue to stick with guys that aren't getting it done, continue to switch to find the best scenario, or somewhere in the middle? I know it's easy to get frustrated with the coaches, but I think the problem is simply a lack of experience of the players. Nothing will make them all 4th and 5th year players this season. They are all still mostly 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year guys. Can you win with one or two of them, sure, but with 3-4 out of 5 underclassman, and none of the older guys being really high rated recruits...It is what it is.
August 8th, 2014 at 10:20 PM ^
That's exactly what I'm worried about. The two reasons to do this are motivational tool, or grasping at straws trying to will 5 passable OL out of not enough options. The former is a waste of time at this juncture IMO, and the latter means we're no better off than this time last year. (edit: option 3,epic trolling, which if true, mission accomplished)
So the media was allowed in for the first 20 minutes per Baumgartner link below.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/08/video_jabrill_peppers…
My bet is that Hoke was just messing with the media by showing an OL that OBVIOUSLY will not be the starting OL. I seriously doubt this was the line for the part of practice the media did not attend.
(A Hoke statement prior to Iowa last year.)
It turns out that Fitz was the "young guy".
That description of Fitz, in comparison to Hoke, is technically correct.
August 8th, 2014 at 10:07 PM ^
I don't understand that strategy. It's not as if another teams knows which offensive lineman you plan on playing it changes their defensive strategy/game plan. Do you think defensive coordinators will do anything different if it's Cole, Mags, Miller, Dawson, Braden versus Mags, Bosch, Glasgow, Kalis, and Braden? I don't see this has having any impact on other teams or media. The only outcome I see this having is the media asking more questions of Hoke about the line, which I can't imagine he likes.
You do realise that 3 weeks of practice are left???
3 weeks left is exactly why I'm panicking.
August 8th, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^
Three weeks is a lot of time. I have nine practices left before our first game. I have no idea who my two DT's are, who my OLB's are, I have no idea who the hell is going to play either corner. Our QB competition is to close to call, only one guy on the OL is a lock to start. Oh and we are a top five ranked team, a lot of people think we can win a state title.
However, you have just made me start to panick, so tomorrow to start practice I am going to run around waving my hands screaming "we're all going to die, we're all going to die" Also, we're just going to cancel the season. Thanks for you wisdom.
August 8th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
I guess i would feel a lot better about 3 weeks if last year wasn't an unmitigated disaster and we weren't dealing with installing a new offense at the same time. I'd feel better if all the shuffling the last two years meant ultimately putting a successful unit on the field instead of foreshadowing of serious issues to come. These guys need a many reps together as they can get.
Doom?
Doom.
PANIC!!!!!!!!!!
dammit! 5-star, there will be blood on the field... and now nada
I know "just a rs so" but......this guy was supposedly ready in HS. There will be blood and it won't be mine, etc. Where is that guy? Exactly why I do my best to ignore recruiting now. Expectations.
August 8th, 2014 at 11:35 PM ^
FWIW, which is nothing, I didn't think he was ready. And I'm not even a scout. I just know that 18 year old kids aren't ready. Whose fault is it that rubes buy what the carnival barkers are selling?
Thanks Brady.
We appreciate the vast snippets of news that come out of the Fort.
The operative word is today.
Watch the phrasing...first team OL TODAY. Tomorrow will be different.
agree with Brimley and Steelbrad
they put different lineman in on different lines to motivate and try a different combinations to see the fit and how they work together
this only shows who got to practice with who today
Starting a true freshman at LT scares the shit out of me.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
August 8th, 2014 at 10:16 PM ^
I hope for all our sakes he/she does not provide the proof you seek.
No. Not even a little.
thought Kalis was supposed to really hit his stride
Not what I was hoping to see. Oh well. This line up can/will change, so Im not going to worry too much about it right now.
This is why we can't sell out a game to save our shit.
Not ticket prices.
Not wifi.
This.
If you love your alma mater. Show up to the god damn game to support the kids. Change your stupid username to market street because you sure as hell don't belong anywhere near State.
oh shut the fuck up
Bronie.
He is 100% right. If we were BIG champs coming off a Rose Bowl there wouldn't be 20,000 tickets still available for the opener. Get off your high horse.
We haven't been elite in 20 years. Unfortunately, as much as we want it to be true. It isn't Michigan's God given right to be amazing at football.
With the Athletic surplus they bring in and the money they charge...they better be damn good at football.
our problem is an old rich alumni who was content on just being really good every year and completing with OSU. we haven't been a national power in awhile. I don't think other teams would be scared to play Michigan or even that excited.
At least do a damned grammar check before you post. It reads like an MSU graduate would write. Furthermore, as an old rich 'alumnus', I take offense to your assertion we "was content" to just 'compete' with OSU every year. We have NEVER, EVER been content with losing to Ohio. So, stop speaking for us and get a better attitude. Everyone on this blog knows that Michigan has not done as well as we'd all like in the last two years. But constantly complaining about it and pointing out the obvious will not bring about our return to dominance any sooner. Start practicing something us old timers call "patience" and "perspective".
August 8th, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^
who's going to police the grammar police?
write, read, and then post once you've checked your fundamentals, please, especially if you're going to act as an authority on grammar.
August 8th, 2014 at 10:19 PM ^
The spelling looked acurate to me.
"....completing with OSU." I believe the correct phrase should have been, "....competing with OSU."
The next one is the use of "awhile". Since he proceeded it with a preposition, "in" then the object of the preposition cannot be an adverb, "awhile". Rather the object of a preposition must be a noun such as "while". Correctly the prepositional phrase should be, "...in a while."
The first is a spelling error, the second is a grammatical error, though could be spelling. Really though, do any but the pedantic really care about comments on a blog post?
:)
August 9th, 2014 at 12:43 AM ^
Most profitable team in baseball. They don't give a damn about winning.
Mlive reporter tweets OL starters after 1-week of camp. You/fan boy do not approve. Therefore, this is is why people haven't been buying all the tickets.
It's just water man ... chill:
You have got to be shittin me. Get a goddamn grip.
Unreal.