OT Hello: Founders Dirty Bastard
If you are that into Dirty Bastard... You need to find Backwoods Bastard. Your perception of beer will be forever changed. Backwoods Bastard is Founders Dirty Bastard aged in Bourbon Barrels. Outstanding brew.
Michiganders are truly spoiled with beer riches, and it is exciting to see the recognition of some great local organizations.
I agree Backwoods bastard is awesome! and it definetly kicks DB up a notch.
I believe Old Dirty Bastard to be the apex. He kicks it up a notch.
You need to try Burton Baton by Dogfish Head. Not Michigan, I know, but they make one of the best IPA's I've ever had, any of their varieties, and the Burton Baton is an Imperial IPA that gets the Barrel Aging treatment. It's absolutely outstanding.
Back Woods Bastard is Epic my friend!!!!
Hell, they're all delicious.
Such a great beer. One of only a few Michigan IPA's that I still crave since I moved to Oregon.
It's a scotch style ale.
What the hell Founder's am I thinking of? Some Imperial IPA? I did like Dirty Bastard but, yeah, clearly, not an IPA
...but Red's Rye PA is well thought of, and not just by me. :^)
(from one of the brewers)...the crusty old guy on the bottle is 'Red'...a homeless guy who hung out around the original brewery down by the river. They named the brew after him.
Also, Founder's has been doing Red's Rye for many years. Damn near EVERY brewery has copied Red's Rye (rye pale ale). There are a lot of good rye pale beers but only ONE Red's Rye...still the best.
Ms. ND Sux and I used to go to the brewery back when it first opened. I remember telling her "it's always about the beer." Tastes vary, but Founder's makes the best beers anywhere IMO, and I've been to 128 of the 155 microbreweries currently operating in Michigan. Sadly, the quest will never be completed but it couples nicely with our weekend motorcycle tours.
By the way, if you haven't tried the brews at that Biercamp / Artisan Sausage place in AA, you should. They only had two brews when we went (and no seating), but both were very good. You can only buy growlers, I think.
I don't like the All Day IPA (which seems to be available all over NYC now, but I love the Dirty Bastard (which I've only found once here in the city). Good stuff.
The All Day is certainly the milder version of the IPA, though not a bad option if you're looking to drink for a bit (hence the name). I can't exactly sit through a football game drinking 7-8%ers and be able to stand up by the end, let alone drive.
That said, the Centennial is one of my favorites. For your standard IPA, it's damn good.
is near the top for me too. The Centennial hop variety offers a nice citrusy flavor and aroma, and Founder's doesn't skimp on it.
I once brewed my own version using 4 oz of hops for a five-gallon batch. Homebrewers out there know that's quite a lot. I called it "Four-cent IPA." Damn tasty but not Founder's.
Founder's started All-Day IPA a few years ago, and now all the majors have a session IPA, and many of the smaller brewhouses do as well. Too light for my taste but a great alternative for newbies, and a stepping-stone for people in transition from sweeter to the bitter side.
Are where it's at for me. I would argue it's for the more mature drinker if anything, while the newbies tend to flock to the big beers.
But I'm growing weary of the those big beers (high alc, bitter). I've been there and done that. I don't need to feel like maybe I've been over-served after just a couple beers. I want to drink 3 or 4 and not have a headache in the morning.
I've brewed almost everything over the last dozen years, and I grow Cascade hops that I can dry-hop any time I feel like it, but you always go back to good ol' "drinkability"...
I think Founders is currently the best brewery in MI, and I like the All Day IPA well enough, but I think it's one of their weakest offerings. Dirty Bastard is the best Scottish Ale I've had, and it's really one of the best non-seasonal six-packs that you can pick up for under $10. I agree with a number of the other posters that Bell's has fallen off a bit, but I still prefer their hoppier beers to those of Founders.
To add another beer to the discussion, I've recently been drinking Cranker's Professor IPA (from Big Rapids). I've been really pleased by it, at least on tap. Very bright and delicious. Also, this might be an unpopular opinion, but I like Schmohz's Hopknocker--although I've found their other beers to be poor... and you have to get beyond the Hopknocker being labeled as a "Double IPA," since it's at least as malty as it is hoppy, and it's the darkest "IPA" I've ever seen. I'm not sure I've ever had it in a bottle, though.
If you like Crankers Brewery, and you like Porters they have a Coconut Porter that is AWESOME. Highly recommend.
I'm assuming that's their "Fifth Voyage"? I have to admit that I wouldn't normally grab a beer off the shelf that is advertized as having coconut, but if you think it's good, I'll give it a shot. Sometimes these strange ingredients work well (for another example, see Dogfishhead's "Aprihop"--an apricot infused IPA). Professor IPA is the only Cranker's I've had to this point. Thanks.
Yep it's called "Fifth Voyage". I'm not a big Porter guy, IPA guy myself but the ingredients work very well. The coconut really balances the smoky flavor to it and its not that heavy either.
They have a location near Grand Rapids now, I forgot exactly where - Caledonia maybe? They are opening a third location in Mt. Pleasant soon.
Beer enthusiasts should grab a copy of the Michigan Brewers Guild guide to M breweries. It comes out every other month and is my beer Bible. Lists all current breweries and the "Murmurs in Michigan" section tells what's in the works.
is in Cutlerville on 68th street. Its in what used to be a Schlotzsky's Deli*
*Protip - I worked at said Schlotzsky's Deli when I was 16 yrs old and walked out in the middle of a shift with a Half Baked-esque quitting speech. ~30yr old me is ashamed of 16yr old me.
/s Cool Story bro complete.
MI Brewers Guild magazine says the brewery portion is being added / licensed, etc.
Crankers in Big Rapids was originally a coney as well.
I had my first All Day IPA last week (also in NYC - Brooklyn actually - Gowanus Yacht Club on Smith Street) and was really disappointed. I though it was really unbalanced and thin. Like drinking grapefruit juice mixed with pine. I don't feel it's representative of what those geniuses at Founders can do. I've had other "sessionable' IPAs (specifically recall Lagunitas DayTime) and have felt similarly disappointed. I don't know enough about brewing to understand why it's difficult to make a beer that's low in ABV, hoppy and still balanced but this seems to be the case. To each his own, of course, but I think I'm done with Session IPAs.
I haven't had one in awhile, but that seems pretty consistent with what I recall. A poster above (WolveInLA, I think) mentioned it being a decent gateway to IPAs--and he may be right--but I actually found that its "lighter" session aspect cut into its potential fullness, leaving it a bit more bitter and astringent than a "bigger" IPA. I might be the exception, but I found that going all the way up to Bell's Hopslam really helped to break me in to drinking IPAs on a regular basis. I used to be an "all malts" kind of guy, but IPAs are my beer of choice at the moment (the warm weather doesn't hurt).
Lowes Food? Is that Lowes the hardware store, but a grocery version?
If so, my mind is blown.
If my grocry store had a beer garden...holy shit. "Babe, I'm gonna run to the market and grab a gallon of milk." "But we have two in the fridge." "Can't be too safe. See you in 3 hours."
I see. I guess it is sort of like Whole Foods or Bristol Farms
I actually think Founders is the best brewery in Michigan...
Here is a brief list of things by Founders that will (most likely) change your opinion:
Backwoods Bastard
Double Trouble
Devil Dancer
KBS
Doom
Panther Cub
Cran Cub
Party Stout
These are some of their more "specialty brews" that are very highly regarded in Michigan and across the country for that matter
is my favorite of their 'semi-regular' lineup. I still cry, though, that it's no longer available year-round like it used to be. As of a couple years ago, Founders moved it into one of their "seasonal" categories and stopped selling it in 6-packs. I was told by a bartender at Founders that this was because Red's Rye didn't keep well, even if refrigerated, and Founders didn't want to sell a product that didn't meet their standards after being on the shelves very long.
Well that's just not true. You might think that the best Founder's beer isn't as good as the best beer from another brewery, but the number if different good-or-better beers that Founder's offers is unparalleled by any of the other Michigan breweries. Founder's has such a variety. That said, there are certainly other very good ones, so this certainly isn't a knock on any of the ones you mentioned.
no matter what style you like, try it at Founder's and it will be among the best you've ever had.
I go back and forth between Founders and Bells. Arcadia, however, is a Yao Ming step behind.