Glasgow Sentenced
Graham Glasgow got sentenced today for his drunk driving foolishness earlier this year (ARTICLE). He drew a pretty hefty sentence for a first offense: 12 months' probation, MADD impact panel session, $800 fine, and six days of community service. He also has to abstain from alcohol and take alcohol awareness classes, and also is subject to random drug and alcohol testing.
He made a serious mistake, and he's paying a price for it. (Nothing compared to what he would have faced had anyone been hurt.) Let's hope this is a lesson learned, and that he has a great year on the field and in the classroom.
Drunk driving deserves harsh punishments.
I agree, and think that the judge did a good job here mixing punitive elements with education elements. Not that it's the first or last drunk driving case that judge will see, of course. But I think it's a just sentence, given the amount of alcohol consumed and the brazen behavior.
Over time he will hopefully realize he was lucky no one was hurt. Maybe he already does. In any event, I hope he meets his probation requirements, readjusts his attitude toward drinking (esp. drinking and driving), and continues to have a great career on and off the field.
Especially when your offense is as dumb and blatant as his was. And I really don't think that qualifies as that harsh of a punishment. Its a year of probation and some classes. Big whoop.
Agree. Would like to see some kind of license suspension tacked on to cases like this. 6 months or so.
This was about Borges and bad offenses at first read
...he was groggy from sleeping after drinking a case of beer and he was just going to get a pizza to soak up the alcohol, remember?
sounds about right. well done, justice system & law enforcement.
He basically can't drink for a year and has to do a bit of volunteer work. I think that's basically getting off scot-free compared to jail time, expulsion, etc.
Six days community service can be knocked out over a weekend or two as most probation officers allow double time on weekends. The biggest hit is to his wallet. Hopefully he has an epiphany and sees this as a life altering moment of which he can straighten up and fly right.
No excuse for driving drunk in a world with taxis. If you cant afford a taxi you cant afford to drink.
...or feet. I went through four years in A2 as a pedestrian and got to class, ate, and had fun just fine. Just walked to the grocery and cabbed it home for dirt cheap; anything else was a twenty minute walk. Ann Arbor is one of the most pedestrian-friendly towns I've ever been in.
I never had to take a car once when I was drinking in my 5 years. A mile can go by quick when you are drunk.
Only time we needed a DD was for Windsor and that was always a short straw type situation.
There are many counties in this State where that would have been his MIP punishment--if not worse. Seriously, other than the MADD course, it is very close to the MIP punishment everywhere but perhaps Ann Arbor. And driving drunk is a whole lot worse.
I had more than one MIP outside of Ann Arbor and paid a $105 fine each time. Nobody is getting a year of probation, random testing, victim impact panel, etc. for an MIP, Ann Arbor or not.
$500-$1000 fine, 40 hours of community service, online class, random testing and 6-12 months probation are most definitely the norm throughout the state of Michigan--save a few college towns. Most Oakland County judges are even stricter and almost all Kent County ones stricter still. Same with outside of East Lansing proper. Jail time, while very rare, isn't unheard of. In fact, if your at Grand Valley, jail time is almost certain.
Those are absurd sanctions for an MIP, which is based on an arbitrary age distinction.
MIP has no provision for probation and it's illegal for the court to require such. neither is the court allowed to use it's contempt powers to boot strap an MIP into a jail sentence. the court must offer a deferred sentence for an MIP first, and may not incarcerate under any circumstances for that offense.
case that holds this is People v. John Williams, and it comes from Oakland county.
I didn't have a lawyer at all. There was no need for one. At the time I received my MIP, it was a $105, period. It didn't matter how many priors you had. It was a ticketed misdemeanor. Maybe things are different now, but LOL @ the thought of needing a lawyer for underage drinking when I was <21.
with the probation requirements. It will be challenging, give he attends college with thousands of peers who drink alot, and there are daily temptations in that regard. Best wishes GG.
with Glasgow as a player. It has to do with a college kid who made a mistake. Fine, I can accept that. But the "I made a mistake will never let it happen again" rhetoric is just so over the top for me. I would certainly hope that MICHIGAN goes above and beyond the opening game suspension.
It's his first offense but it only takes one to kill somebody because of your actions. Having lost a family member to a drunk driver, I dream of the day that Michigan makes him truly learn from his poor judgment and I don't think a one-game suspension does that.
It is easy to see how you accumlated all those points.
> We should sentence for possible outcomes?
What the hell does that even mean? That we should let him off until he actually kills someone?
No, it means that you punish people for things that they've actually done and not the things that they could do. You could go out and start selling drugs tomorrow, but just because you have the capability to do that doesn't mean we're going to arrest you and send you to prison for "possibly selling drugs" just the same as we're not going to send you to prison for possibly killing someone while driving your car. Just like we're not going to punish Mr. Glasgow for possibly killing someone while driving intoxicated.
Ruining someone's life because of a single mistake that did not actually ruin anyone else's life is not an effective way to build a just society.
attached to the subject to make an objective obeservation, so we'll keep that in mind. What you need to keep in mind is that his punishment from Michigan has already been handed down and it won't be changing.
They only used to have to run steps. I couldn't imagine running stadiums.
but do agree that DUI should be punished severely. However, I don't understand why he cannot have a drink for one year. Is he underage? Does he have a drinking problem? If he is of age and unless there are extenuating circumstances, telling him he cannot have drink is beyond reasonable and unjust.
I'm guessing it was part of a plea deal--agree to not drink (and subject yourself to some random drug/alcohol tests) in exchange for avoiding up to 3 months jail time.
...to have any drinks for a year because America is a police state that must control all of its slaves, er, "citizens".
from drinking because he has already demonstrated poor enough judgment that his drinking needs to be legislated against. Pretty typical given the circumstances.
Everybody Murders.
I like the punishment. It is mostly centered around him not repeating the offense with classes, abstaining from alcohol etc. Too many times we send people to jail and they get a big mark on their record which causes them to go back to being a drug dealer or whatever because they could never get a job again.
This is pretty standard for a first offense. For those (like myself) who don't believe his punishment should be harsher, or less harsh, because he plays football, this seems about right.
If Patrick Kugler has passed Jack Miller yet?
abstaining from alcohol must be a mighigan thing. as far as i know down here in shitio they just either throw you in jail, or suspend/revoke your lisence. they don't want to stop you from drinking... just from driving at the same time.
In Idaho it depends on whether or not you have "supervised probation" or "unsupervised probation." For supervised, they can put just about any conditions they want, while unsupervised just means the sentence can be reimposed if you screw up. Judges here often impose alcohol bans, even for non-alcohol-related charges.
So glasgow is getting suspended by Hoke for the year right? That's what I would do, anything less than 6 games is a joke.
They were pulled over by the police because items were falling out of the rear hatch of the SUV.
The girlfriend was hanging out the passenger window.
Very stupid actions obviously drawing attention.
Hey Glasgow if you are going to drive drunk how about trying to drive sanely not drawing attention to yourself. NOT!
This isn't just a mistake; this is beyond stupidity.
By definition, if a person is driving while intoxicated, their judgement is already impaired to a significant degree. Expecting rational behavior out of a drunk person who's chosen to drive is a fool's errand.
handed out about 2000 time a day throughout our state. neither better nor worse, zero favoritism or extra punishment.