OT - Game of Thrones Season 4 Finale
I better see some dragons.
A dragon is not a slave . . .
I didn't think much of it at the time (other than mentally noting it was a first), but I think the fade to white to end last night's episode was significant. I'm not a book reader (well, past the show at least), but I have gleaned that Jon Snow is kinda important, yo. All other endings to episodes have been cuts/fades to black. But with Jon Snow taking on his leadership role, we fade to white. Nice touch methinks.
I'm not sure how the many promos can say this will top the red wedding. I'll admit, I've read all the books, and unless they deviate completely from the books, I just don't see this season finale being "over the top". Prove me wrong HBO. But I'm betting it's all just hype to get more people to watch. However, I will say, it will be "interesting".
Season 4 is the best one yet. Season 3 is good as well. I will say Season 3 does have the best Episode 9 though.
They've changed quite a bit on that story line from the books. In the books, they meet up with Mr. Cold Hands, the white walker that takes the baby and he can talk and is nice, and leads them to the cave as white walkers are about to kill them all, not skeletons popping out of the ground. Everyone thinks he might be Ned Starks brother from the wall turned white walker. Could be, who knows. Also I think Jojen lives. Them 4 also never went to Cruster's Keep. That was all made up. So again, they changed it quite a bit. In the end, they ended up where they're supposed to be, the cave.
You're being a douchebag, just fyi.
I disagree. He's spoiling it for people that have yet to read the books that watch the show. And since the books have been out for so long - who the fuck cares?
In terms of spoiling the show - it's not like they can go back in time and have cold hands walk them to the three eyed raven. It's happened. He's just simply noting the variance from the novels. Like people have been doing the last three weeks, ever since Crastor's keep.
So you know for sure that Coldhands isn't going to be a future character in the show?
No, I didn't say that at all.
But why get all uppity about events in the past - both in the book and the show? People noting "oh this was different here" aren't spoiling shit.
And if the answer is "no", then by default he very well could have/did spoil something. It's pretty straight forward, really.
Since it seems you haven't read the books, I can tell you from being a book reader we don't know how his character is going to go in future books or show. He's a small character that pops up every now and then. I'm curious as the next person and wish he was in the novels more because his character is very interesting. I promise you I did not spoil anything. All I said was he was involved in the cave scene. I didn't explain the who, what, when, where, and why. The meat. I saw so many people commenting on not liking the skeletons, that I felt the comment was justified because I found it weird too and didn't get why they switched it for no reason.
And since the show is going in a different direction from the books, who knows how they will treat Cold Hands in the show. If they have inside information from Martin on where the story is going, the show has already spoiled a theme from the upcoming books. So we're all in the same boat.
Honestly didn't mean to tick anyone off. I thought comparing two scenes vs the book wasn't a big deal. We're talking 20 pages of 5000.
Twice. You're both still missing my point, or ignoring it.
"And since the books have been out for so long - who the fuck cares?"
So do you ruin classic movies for your friends when they haven't seen them due to the same attitude?
I care a little bit. I haven't started book 5 and, since the show is skipping ahead of the books, had no idea that's how it went down. Now I do. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it would have been nice not to know right now.
this is all pure fan fiction and it is amazing.
best episode ever and we still have twenty minutes
jdon
I thoroughly enjoyed this season. And this episode was the best. I like how they lined up all the arcs and knocked it all out.
I loved the sword play. All well done.
I hated seeing Jojen Die but hey, it is what it is.
jdon
ps. I think the best part is how far the show has strayed from the books to the point where when Brienne and the hound were fighting I wasn't sure who would win or why.
Overall, great episode. But I'm irrationally pissed about the lack of certain scenes.
The one that I'm irritated with is Brienne and the Hound fighting. That never happens. The Hound is killed by others. I think it hurts the story and now Brienne knows Arya is alive. In the books, no one does from Westeros. I think that's what's so good about her character is the possibilities that we hope will arise with her character. If Bri tells people she is alive, it could destroy the Arya storyline. So I just don't get it.
Dude, STOP spoiling the books.
He's "spoiling" books that have been out for years and a TV show is being made about them that covers almost everything in them. I don't understand people who hate hearing about what's different in the books from the show since it's mostly the same. You already know the major plot points : Ned Stark dies, Joffrey gets poisoned, Rob's wedding does not end well. I understand not wanting future parts of the show spoiled and can respect that, but books that have been out for over a year is pushing it.
Yes, and it's common courtesy to not talk about them because some people are just now discovering the books and reading them because of the show.
I'm a quarter of the way through Storm of Swords, for example. It'd be nice if i go to a thread about the show and someone doesn't tell me that X is killed by Y in the books (which this posted did above).
Most important? That stuff gets like what... one chapter in the books? Most shocking? Oh yeah, no doubt.
...most important/shocking thing that's been left out?
ehhhh...George RR has said they are using material from book 7...I assumed this means the King Beyond the Wall.
There are only five so far...
oops meant 6...ehhh...I am pissed about this ending. The showrunners wasted 10 minutes of scheduled run time.
And the show spoiled at least one book plotline tonight, maybe two but I'm not sure on that just yet. Not real happy about it. I think the show has gotten too wrapped up in shock value, and fighting scenes, which has greatly taken away from the story being told. Just my e-pinion, but I think the books are soo much better.
alas, there shall be no jojen paste...
jdon
Maybe.
The real test of the show will be seeing what they do with the plotlines from the terrible 4th book.
FUCK! They left out the cliffhanger of A Storm of Swords! I was hoping the Brotherhood would make an appearance...
Arya and the Hound
Tyrion and Tywin
Those were some really awesome scenes
That exchange between Tyrion and Jaime and Tyrion and Tywin is the best of the best in A Storm of Swords. Such a shame the producers left those out.
And of course, no LSH! Can't say I'm surprised. Will be interesting to see where the Brienne plot line is heading.
1. Book people please be careful - I don't know what LSH is or whatever, but I'd like to find out on my own as I finish Storm of Swords this summer :)
2. I was verrry satisfied. I was hoping Brienne convinced Arya to come with her, but with that final scene I'm glad it didn't happen.
3. Tyrion! I actually expected him to die - someone "spoiled" to me earlier in the week that he dies and right up to the last second I expected something to go wrong. What a GREAT reveal with Tywin having Shae in his bed.
4. The adventures of Tyrion and Varys in the East! Can't wait!
5. I'm interested in what Stannis plans for now. Could we see the North rise again under Stannis? Methinks not with the Red Woman.
6. Skeletors... ehh, a little too fantasyish for me, but you knew it was going that surreal route, so not a big deal. I worry that what I love about GoT - the politics of the warring families - may have died with Tywin (and all the Starks prior and Lysa and Oberyn etc.). But I'm not against sci-fi/fantasy so I'll enjoy it regardless.
Very nice finish that tied up loose ends but still leaves us begging for more!
They did say that some scene in season 4 was the highest cost per second of any scene thus far. I'm guessing it's the skeletons.
As for politics, I wouldn't be too worried, there are always people looking to rise to power in King's Landing.
Might be the dragons in the catacombs. Lot of reflections and tough light to replicate down there.
I guess I just think we have seen scenes with the dragons that long before. Coordinating an action sequence with completely CGI enemies is not something that most shows have the budget for.
the one continuous moving/panning shot in Castle Black during the battle as Tarly rand to get Ghost. That shot must have lasted nearly a minute without a single visible cut and had constant action in every corner of the frame. It was an incredible shot from a technical standpoint, but it could have cost a huge amount of $$$.