Mke Journal-Sentinel: Carlos Hyde scored below literacy level on Wonderlic
According to a pro scout's report in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Hyde’s Wonderlic score was 9. Given that 10 is the minimal literacy level, you wonder who Carlos has to thank at Ohio for his great academic achievement. Maybe he can credit Urban Meyer, who was so tough on Carlos.
Once, Meyer kept Carlos out for two whole plays after an unspecified “academic infraction”. Oddly, Hyde’s performance turned out to be “the third-best rushing performance in Ohio State history.
Meyer said about Carlos “"He's fine. He has been great and I expect him to be great again. I have no problem with Carlos….(but) "Academically our guys are held to a certain standard,"
Since a 9 score on the Wonderlic does not meet the standard for basic literacy (10), you have to wonder what exactly was the standard of Meyer and Ohio . (think North Carolina)
I aint go here to play school!
weren't we clamoring for him to transer here last year? Seemed like we wanted him then
And if so, Meyer's PR machine was declaring OSU to be "Warrior Poet U."
Hyde doesn't need to be smart to meet the expectations of his next job. Of course NFL running backs only last 3-8 years, so by the time he's thirty I hope he has some money saved up.
Someone should enroll himself into the 'Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good; and Want to Learn to do Other Stuff Good too.'
looks 'shopped
Sad thing is it's not. That is actually how their school cheer goes. "O-H! Y-O!* Ohio! For kids who can't read, uh, Good!"
*they have had quite a bit of issue spelling Ohio right in the past. Where is that pic of the flags in the wrong order?
No it was at the Sugar Bowl. Against LSU I believe.
Guy second from right is so high
I can Wonderlic . . . my own balls!
But these low literacy scores are becoming a habit at Ohio--recall Carlos Hyde, Terrelle Pryor, Chris Gamble--just to mention a few. Couple this with the twitter report from an Ohio qb, cardale jones, that he was there to play FB, not to study. As already noted on this thread, Adophus Washington said "there's no way you can fail" at Ohio. Also, think of the earlier allegations of a teaching assistant as well as multiple players (like Clarret) that they did not have to go to class or take the same tests as other students.
So yes, most schools can have a problem on a single test. But at Ohio there may be much more.
Andy Katzenmoyer?
From Sports Illustrated.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1016173/
"The letter also questioned how Katzenmoyer, who it claimed had earned a 1.72 average or lower in five of his seven semesters, was "suddenly able to perform at the scholar-athlete level (3.0)" for the first summer term, and how he'd been squeezed into the golf class, which was full."
Katzenmoyer was a hell of a college football player, but boy he doesn't seem to be that bright. I honeslty believe when the defensive coaches for Ohio were calling out adjustments for each play they just signaled to him to "Get Football".
Not much of a seducer either. His MO was to wait by the door at frat parties and ask women "Do you wanna get with the Kat?" This being Columbus I bet it was a good strategy.
BigKatsBigDreams seems to ahve been taken down.... Who can forget stories of the Brohammer, or his menu advice for "prenatal female and baby"? (these involved many chicen brest and proteen shake)
The Steelers' GM, Kevin Colbert, said that the reports of Terrelle Pryor scoring a 7 were completely erroneous and that the actual score was "significantly higher." Pryor himself later tweeted that he thought the reports were hilariously because his scored a 22 (grain of salt yadada).
UNC sucks.
Terrelle's in good company.
Nope, just came to kick wolverine ass and gain 3 pairs of gold pants. That's really all that matters. No one that plays football cares about school, except for Northwestern players. The B1G is very illiterate all the way around.
that have a hard time taking seriously a test named Wonderlic.
Buckeye who give two shits overflow cooler.
There was a study published a few years ago that showed that there was not much of a positive correlation between Wonderlic score and NFL success, aside from the QB position, I believe.
The study actually found a negative correlation between scores and success for certain positions (namely DB), meaning that the lower the score a player scored on the test, the higher the likelihood of NFL success.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08959280902970401#.UxSgTM6Gdls
I hate to be this guy, partly because there's little I enjoy more than shitting on OSU, but mocking players' Wonderlic scores always seems a little harsh and unfair to me. It's basically just calling them stupid without any context (for how hard they try to learn, whether they grew up with good educational opportunities, what happened on the test, etc.).
On the other hand, ...
Adolphus Washington saying, "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."
... and Cardale Jones saying, "We ain't come to play school, classes are pointless."
... and Terrelle Pryor saying, "Not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever."
That shit's just funny.
didn't Tate say something similar to Washington's quote shortly before he failed and had to leave school?
It seems that the players that always offer the quotes regarding academic's maybe shouldn't.
The point is that he failed. That's apparently impossible at OSU.
(I'm assuming that's actually what happened with Tate, but I don't know.)
my comment is beside the point here. Anyway when I was a freshman he was "in" my general sociology class, but he was never there.
I am pretty sure that - sadly - this is not the worst score to come out of the combines in recent years. I believe that Terrelle Pryor scored a 7 as did Tavon Austin. I think Morris Claiborne might be in the record books for the combines of recent note with his 4 actually. Frank Gore scored a 6, I think, in his draft. Still, there has to be some context to all of this, whether it be known issues with schools or individuals or sheer indifference.
I could be wrong, but I had read somewhere that some teams actually target scores based on position. I would have to think that a 9 is below all of them. However, given the talk surround Hyde from scouts, there are still several teams that would take him all the same.
And that might be the case with some of the others scoring low as well. We just don't know.
I don't know about all the draftees, but Claiborne has gone on record saying he didn't even read one question. He basically said "fuck this, I'm putting down C for everything and getting out of here."
I don't believe he is unique in that he didn't care one bit about the test.
Aren't they like, "What are the four seasons?"
Didn't Manningham get a 6?
NFL team takes zero stock on Wonderlic test. There are some players who just don't give a shit and just put down whatever answers they feel like without trying. It's 99.9% for sure that Hyde is in the same boat.
why was he having an academic problem at Ohio?
Surely, a test score can be low because a player does not care, but how much do you think that player cares about even more strenous academic activities--like going to college? Is such a player likely to satisfy eligibility requirements?
Such problems cannot be easily swept under the rug any more.
The Wonderlic only marginally matters for QBs. You'd like your guys to do well bc it correlates to learning a playbook.
Pryor did poorly and did okay as a QB in Oakland.
Pryor did poorly and did okay as a QB in Oakland.
Last I knew he was being replaced by an undrafted QB who was a walk on in college. But then again I don't watch very much Raider football. I get punished enough watching the Lions.