Duke v. UVA, Saturday Night Hoops, NCAA tourney Speculation, Beverage, etc
Mates,
UVA v. Duke just tipped off. Very interesting game to watch for those so disposed to do so. Glad for our Wolverines with a hard-nosed win v. a talented and determined UW. The NCAA released its initial top seeding and we came out at #6, getting a 2 seed. Its Saturday night (almost) and you have your BBQ lit and a cup of (beverage) in your hand.
2 Questions:
1. So who wins UVA v. Duke (may not choose 'meteor')
2. Speculate like crazy about the NCAA seedings, only what, a month away from the real deal.
Have a great night and congrats again to the maize and blue - muppet worthy effort today.
XM
February 9th, 2019 at 6:23 PM ^
1) When Duke plays like this, no one will beat them. They win tonight, and I think they win big. By 15-20, anyway.
2) At this point, a two seed for us seems about right. All the teams ahead of us, with the exception of maybe Kentucky, deserve to be ahead of us. So I’m good with it.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:48 PM ^
Not Gonzaga IMO. They're good, but we've played a much more challenging schedule.
They've played 3 really tough opponents, and are 1-2. They beat Duke, but lost to Tennessee and NC.
It's not their fault they play in a crappy league, but they do.
We play a much much tougher schedule. And we beat the crap out of NC.
February 9th, 2019 at 6:24 PM ^
February 9th, 2019 at 7:53 PM ^
Who cares? The guy is an idiot. If he played in an era where defense was played, he would not be nearly as good.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:56 PM ^
LOL yeah that’s a laughably bad take. It’s fine not to like LeBron or point out the (few) flaws in his game, but he’d be in top 3 players in the world at worst during any point in history.
February 9th, 2019 at 8:01 PM ^
Disagree. The guy comes down and gets wide open looks nearly every time by doing nothing. Defense is atrocious in Nba for at least the last 15 years.
February 9th, 2019 at 8:43 PM ^
Anyone who has this take either doesn’t watch the nba or doesn’t understand basketball
February 9th, 2019 at 9:17 PM ^
Its not atrocious. Its non-existent. Couple that with no hand-checking and no travelling/palming and voila!
I got tapes(vhs for the kids) of Joe Dumars if someone wants to watch defense. Oh, and one of the guys he matched up with was better than anyone of the guys in the NBA now. Jordan in his prime goes for 40 plus 95% of the games he would play in in todays NBA.
February 9th, 2019 at 9:30 PM ^
February 9th, 2019 at 10:24 PM ^
Be nice to Shea, especially since he's coming back for one more season.
February 9th, 2019 at 6:24 PM ^
Nearly an even bigger day for UM. UNC beat Miami and Villanova lost by 1 to Marquette. The two big non-conference wins are still looking pretty good.
If Duke continues to pound UVA then Michigan should be able to move past them. Still no reason for Gonzaga and Nevada to be ranked ahead of UM.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:04 PM ^
Villanova losing does not help UM, it may not hurt, it won't help. Gonzaga has the best win and their two losses are much better than Michigan's, so there two reasons to rank Gonzaga ahead of UM. If both teams win out, it will be close, maybe the UNC common opponent will give UM the edge over Gonzaga.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:53 PM ^
Gonzaga has 1 advantage - location. They're the best team in the west.
That's not saying much however - basketball sucks out this way this year.
February 10th, 2019 at 12:11 AM ^
Pretty sure that's irrelevant. They don't pick the best team in the west to be the one seed in the west. They seed teams 1-68 and go down the list slotting them into regions based on location and conference rules.
So if they thought Michigan was the 4th best team, Michigan would be the 1 seed in the west. That's it.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:53 PM ^
Not sure I agree. M blew out one of the teams that beat Gonzaga. M plays in a night-in, night-out tougher conference. That's not even debatable.
Their best win, over Duke on a neutral court, is definitely good, but neither they nor Nevada plays in a league anywhere near the B1G.
February 10th, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
Gonzaga is number one in the net rankings after yesterday's games, Michigan is 6th. The committee pretty much followed the net rankings in announcing their top 16 on Saturday, with some variation within the seeding. I think Duke and Gonzaga have locked up 1 seeds, so best bet for Michigan is for Virginia to be knocked out (as I noted previously they play @UNC, @VaTech and maybe Duke again in the acc tourney), or for Tennesee and Kentucky to knock each other out. They have a home and home and could play in the sec tourney as well. Michigan doesn't have to win out to get a 1 with their remaining schedule, a loss on the road at MSU or Maryland would not lower UM's ranking or at most only one spot.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:59 PM ^
Well Nevada is currently at 14 according to the committee. Also, there is no way UVA is dropping very far after this loss
February 9th, 2019 at 6:25 PM ^
duke starting out 7-10 shooting, including 5-5 from the 3. on the road.
now has cooled off, only 8-12 and 6-7 from 3.
February 9th, 2019 at 6:45 PM ^
This Duke squad is one of the most physically gifted in the top 6 spots or so in a long time. When they decide to space the floor and move the ball, they are almost unstoppable. Jones is very talented, but put X with this group and it would be a juggernaut.
February 9th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^
They will not shoot like that rest of the season. Gone in the Elite 8. Book it..
February 9th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^
They will not shoot like that rest of the season. Gone in the Elite 8. Book it..
February 9th, 2019 at 6:46 PM ^
I can never root for Duke, but a UVA loss would be really good for UM's chance at a 1-seed, UVA still plays @NC and @Va Tech.
February 9th, 2019 at 6:55 PM ^
True, but then we’d have to worry about unc potentially jumping us (as crazy as that sounds). They close with a lot of opportunities for “big wins” and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the selection committee was itching to move them up (despite the waxing they received earlier in the year head-to-head).
February 9th, 2019 at 7:06 PM ^
We also close with a lot of opportunities for big wins. If UNC goes 2-0 vs. Duke they could get a one seed. Conversely, if we go 2-0 over MSU, we have to be a lock for a 1
February 9th, 2019 at 8:39 PM ^
I sure hope you're right. But I'm skeptical that the committee would keep UNC off the 1 line if they close by beating Duke twice, I'd think that'd make them a lock. If we beat MSU twice, they'll probably just chalk it up to St. Izzo having to play weird guys. Conversely, msu would probably rise in the rankings. I mean, they lost three in a row (two of them nasty) and barely budged in the rankings. A pair of close losses to Michigan could probably net them a 1 seed. I hope I'm wrong and it's a moot point. Plus, it probably doesn't matter that much to be a one or a two (outside of Duke's bracket).
February 10th, 2019 at 4:12 PM ^
When you say budged, do you mean polls or the net rankings? They didn't budge because of the wins they had coming in, a few of them on the road which net loves. Net is an algorithm that gets updated daily by a computer, there's no Izzo love or UM hate in that. The committee will tweak the net rankings for sure but at this point the top 16 has pretty much correlated.
February 9th, 2019 at 6:56 PM ^
Duke shooting 3s like they're 2005 Duke. Barret was unconscious for a while there. Virginia was sloppy though and didn't help themselves by digging an early hole. They've cleaely settled in a bit and Duke won't keep up the 3s.
UVA needs to keep up the comeback and get this real interesting! Hopefully a fun finish here in an hour or so.
Would've been nice to see Villanova get the win (I guess I'm sort of a Nova fan for the remainder of the season?) but they had a pretty poor last possession...good game that was though, finally seeing Markus Howard ball. He good.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:05 PM ^
Thread jack, but how can Kentucky possibly be put above us? Losses to Seton Hall and Alabama. Best wins are against UNC by 8, 8 point home win over the worst KU team in the last decade and a half, and a road win over Louisville (who has been all over the place this season). That doesn't even compare to a dismantling of UNC, a 27 road win at Nova, a blowout over Purdue, and a win over Wisconsin. They put Kentucky in the top 5 cause they don't know where else to put them, just like every year
February 9th, 2019 at 7:17 PM ^
MoV is more important than it has been in the past. We had a shit MoV against some bad teams. I don't think Kentucky is the better team, but that's where it stems from.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:56 PM ^
I agree, and I think the committee might ultimately as well. I don't see KY as a 1.
Of course, if they beat Tennessee a couple of times, my opinion might change.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:21 PM ^
I think we want Duke to win unfortunately. Better chance of UVA moving off the one line than Duke.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:38 PM ^
Don't care about seeding. Just don't want to see Duke or MSU before the FF.
I liked Lunardi's this morning - M is the 2 with UT as the 1.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:30 PM ^
I hate Duke. I REALLY hope VA wins this game.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:57 PM ^
I'm with you. I will never root for Duke.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:35 PM ^
There's no way Duke keeps shooting like this for 6 straight games in March/April. I don't think they even run an offense. And of course they get to do whatever.
Not rooting for the meteor. I ain't got no beef with VA. But it would be great if VA was allowed to play D.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:52 PM ^
Duke doesn't have to shoot this well from three in all six tournament games though. They can score in a lot of ways. Keep in mind that UVa was tied with us for the #1 Kenpom defense in the country coming in.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:57 PM ^
True, but you heard Schulman. If Duke is only 50% from 3, VA is winning this game.
February 9th, 2019 at 7:40 PM ^
Has duke ever played a game not on espn with duke slappy bilas or dicky v calling it
February 9th, 2019 at 7:59 PM ^
Bilas drives me nuts. Can't stand him.
They are really good, but Fuck Duke.
February 9th, 2019 at 8:01 PM ^
I remember when it took him years to get over the Amaker firing. He could not objectively evaluate Michigan for a long time after that.
February 10th, 2019 at 9:12 AM ^
Bilas is a pompous douchebag.
February 9th, 2019 at 8:00 PM ^
February 9th, 2019 at 8:05 PM ^
Anyone going to watch Neb-PU?
February 9th, 2019 at 8:23 PM ^
Duke's two freshman score a lot of points.
February 9th, 2019 at 8:49 PM ^
Huskers playing well early.
February 9th, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^
I need to get me some Fleet merchandise.
Though that was a really bad decision by the QB there
February 9th, 2019 at 9:26 PM ^
Boilers up two at the half on the Huskers.
February 9th, 2019 at 9:29 PM ^
ESPN SEC football circle jerk = ESPN ACC basketball circle jerk
February 9th, 2019 at 9:39 PM ^
Great win by Michigan over a tough Wisconsin team! The Duke-Virginia game was terrific - two talented squads giving their best against the best.
Who does Gonzaga play tonight? That powerhouse known as Saint Mary's College. Losers this year to Utah State, Harvard, Pepperdine, and San Francisco. Among other dog shit tacos....
What a crock of shit. Gonzaga should get a #3 seed max just for playing that crap schedule in that horseshit conference.