January 16th, 2019 at 10:55 AM ^
If its on the radio and Twitter - must be true.
Or perhaps the MSU Board is having a scheduled open meeting to discuss this...
He does need to go - yesterday...
January 16th, 2019 at 11:01 AM ^
Oops, I should have checked my MSU BoT meeting schedule before posting!
For what it's worth, Dan Murphy (on Twitter) is saying the BoT has given Engler two options: Resign or be fired.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:05 AM ^
Link or no - my guess is Twitter, radio and you are right. That comment yesterday may have "broken the camel's back". Engler is a buffoon - should have stayed retired and played shuffleboard...
January 16th, 2019 at 11:08 AM ^
That's the ONE that did it, eh? How was that one more or less offensive than 50 other things he's said??? But I guess better late than never...
January 16th, 2019 at 11:21 AM ^
straws and things
January 16th, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
...things like elections.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^
What's that saying about snowflakes? They don't weigh anything but put enough together and you can cave in a roof? I think all his stupid comments put together just caved in the roof...
January 16th, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
this should clearly be in one of the snowflake threads
January 16th, 2019 at 11:44 AM ^
I have heard rumblings from professors that MSU applications are down considerably, so they are taking students that previously could not have gotten into MSU. Enrollment will be similar numbers, but there will be a much lower threshold for students who will be enrolled in this year and possibly following years.
I'm not sure what Engler said yesterday, but I'm guessing the unfortunate reality is that the MSU board is forced to due something now, because the enrollment issue. If there were no changes there, I'm not confident he would be forced out.
January 16th, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
[Insert joke about low standards at MSU]
January 16th, 2019 at 1:34 PM ^
Wait, there were "students that [sic] previously could not have gotten into MSU"? What would that even take? Can't spell own name?
January 16th, 2019 at 1:39 PM ^
While it's true that applications were way down, that was expected. It's why MSU took an extra large freshman class the year before.
The BoT is moving against Engler because their membership changed in the last election and it was an issue for the new members. They're pushing to fire him and his supporters are worn down.
January 16th, 2019 at 3:15 PM ^
There was never a much support locally or within the University for the Engler hiring, and whatever he had eroded due to his lawyerly handling of the crisis. The statement was unforgivable - good ****ing riddance.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:59 AM ^
Yes, that's certainly true. But, the MSU BOT, like many of their past behaviors, was ignoring a huge problem hoping it would just go away rather than deal with it. That's one of the reasons they got into the huge Nassar problem to begin with. Sparties will be Sparties.
January 16th, 2019 at 12:48 PM ^
I'd take a slightly different view of MSU's behavior. It isn't ignore it and hope it goes away, it is attack the opponent and hope they go away. Rightly or wrongly, this approach has been worked for them for decades.
That has been their culture. To the point that the BoT had George Perles on it. An individual who had the local police so in his grasp that local citizens couldn't report the misdeeds of those associated with the athletic program.
My belief is that the BoT took the typical MSU approach and hired someone (Engler) to push back against the victims. And once the story went national and beyond just sports, and won't just fade away, the various media outlets are following and documenting the boorish behavior at MSU. And that's why this time its blowing up spectacularly in their face.
January 16th, 2019 at 1:52 PM ^
Yeah, I have to assume the real reason is MSU is finally past the part where they need an ignorant asshole running the shop and actually want students to want to attend their school again. MSU saw a dip in applications after the Nassar situation, and I'm sure that they don't like seeing it being brought up again by this fucker.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:09 AM ^
But don't leave it past staee to give him a nice consolation prize of a big fat consulting role or an honorary title or maybe a professorship.
Maybe he and urbz can teach a class together titled slimey and slimier.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^
Or "Character and Leadership."
January 16th, 2019 at 11:46 AM ^
They'll teach a class together about how great Joe Pa was in his handling of the Sandusky situation, I'm sure.
January 16th, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^
The Paterno brothers and PSU will sue you if you even mention the scandal without first paying them.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
Really? I would have thought it was his fat ass that broke the camels back.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:42 AM ^
MSU has been looking for a new president for a while and it wouldn't surprise me if they are using this as an excuse to push him out now that they have someone lined up for the job.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:46 AM ^
Looks like voting this past November actually worked and moved the needle
January 16th, 2019 at 11:57 AM ^
Is he going to live in Izzo's basement now?
January 16th, 2019 at 3:49 PM ^
I lol'd.
January 16th, 2019 at 10:56 AM ^
Apparently this was LONG overdue. About fucking time.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:00 AM ^
Shocking, sorry Not Shocking that it took them this long to see that he was a cancer to that school and their reputation. Maybe there is a glimmer of hope for little brother.
January 16th, 2019 at 10:58 AM ^
to Late teh Demage has been done and is not reversible..Its not like this was his ONLY stupid assine comment..there were tons of them
January 16th, 2019 at 11:03 AM ^
Yeah, seems interesting that his recent comments were the straw that broke the camels back. He's been making these kinds of comments since he took the position of president. He also was never thought to be a decent human being as governor. Fire whoever brought him up as a candidate in the first place.
January 16th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
I like drinking too.
January 16th, 2019 at 12:51 PM ^
I can attest to this.
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January 16th, 2019 at 11:01 AM ^
I thought thumb down was kill him and thumb up was let him live.... I think you did it wrong. ;)
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January 16th, 2019 at 1:38 PM ^
Common historical misconception. Thumbs up meant kill the guy, thumbs down meant don't.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:10 AM ^
Interestingly enough, neither is actually correct.
"Thumbs up" would not have been an option in the circumstance. An emperor would either cover his thumb with the rest of his fingers for "live" or give a "side thumb" making reference to a sword for "die."
The more you know....
January 16th, 2019 at 12:44 PM ^
I give this post two hidden thumbs! (Doesn't quite have the same ring)
January 16th, 2019 at 1:08 PM ^
Knowledge is power! School House Rock!
January 16th, 2019 at 11:00 AM ^
"I have watched Engler not only interact with our courageous survivors but our faculty, employees and students as well," said Trustee Brian Mosallam. "He's not only a bully, he is a mean-spirited human being. His time is up."
Exactly this....
January 16th, 2019 at 11:07 AM ^
I would love to shake the hand of the man or woman who said that. Glad to see the right thing is being done.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:01 AM ^
Only a year too late!
January 16th, 2019 at 11:05 AM ^
It’s good that he’s gone, but it’s still a terrible look on MSU’s regents that it’s happening now instead of months ago when he was doing all sorts of unethical things. It seems to me that they brought him in with covering things up in mind, let him be reckless and terrible throughout this entire Nassar scandal, then only after they’re mostly clear of it, fire him. Meanwhile he gets millions of dollars and MSU’s image is “redeemed” because they made the bad man go away.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:08 AM ^
I believe the Board of Trustees was tilted in favor of him up until the election in November. Two anti-Engler people were elected and replaced two pro-Engler people. So that might have helped tip the scales against him. Unfortunately, I still believe it's about 50/50 decent people v scumbags on their board.
January 16th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
Ah, this is a fair take as well, I forgot there was an election that affects the board of trustees recently.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
I agree with this - I think MSU sees it as mission accomplished in protecting the university and coaches and I don't give them much credit for firing him now. If it's true he is being fired, they are only doing this now as they are mostly clear of the scandal at least publicly and can now try to save face by firing him. But his recent comments (and numerous prior comments) are completely consistent with what he was always hired to do - spearheading the damage control effort with a complete disregard to those affected.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:05 AM ^
He was brought in to protect Mork and Izzo. He circled the wagons and protected them. MSU will look at this as a mission accomplished by him for taking care of their legendary coaches.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:10 AM ^
Mork didn't really need any help - he decided to just self destruct anyways, based on his recent coaching decisions.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:20 AM ^
Could be a case of not wanting to fire the people who know where the bodies are buried.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:20 AM ^
Dantonio is "legendary"? MSU has a very different definition of what constitutes legendary.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:44 AM ^
I firmly believe that when all is said and done competing with the UM--envy and hatred of the arrogant intellectuals down the road--will be seen as the driver of this entire fiasco. They couldn't compete in the classroom, but they thought they could do it on the playing field. And let's be honest, they succeeded for a time. The university's women--and ultimately the university--will be paying a miserable price.
Under Engler--yes--they have settled some legal issues. But I doubt many faculty or students think the university itself has gained. At least making it look like MSU was facing the truth honorably, making changes, trying to do right by the victims. . . these were the crucial considerations.
Politics or no politics, it is my understanding that one interest group in the legislature threatened the university with lost funding if it didn't hire Engler. If so, they too should pay the price.