4godkingandwol…

January 12th, 2019 at 10:29 AM ^

Of course they did. It’s a small tight knit community. They knew exactly what they were getting. This is terrible optics, made no better by the fact they were backfilling for a coach who was caught having sex with one of his team members. Have to question the judgment of any one involved in this hiring decision. 

mGrowOld

January 12th, 2019 at 10:27 AM ^

Im baffled as to why the first thread was locked.

Is it simply because it presents a bad optic on the University?  If so, i dont think shutting down a discussion on the matter is right at all.

Shop Smart Sho…

January 12th, 2019 at 10:40 AM ^

I saw it after it was first started and came back to check on it about 30 minutes later and it was already locked. At first I thought that maybe they had deleted a bunch of flaming and arguing, but then I realized there was no way for that to happen in such a short time. It would make sense to lock it if it went off the rails, but to do it preemptively seems a step too far.

Seth

January 12th, 2019 at 11:17 AM ^

mgowill locked it and notified me. Our policy with stuff like this is leave it unless the comments are so out of hand and out of whack with reality that we need to remove comments and leave the thread, but he's still getting his bearings and did the right thing by erring to safety and contacting me. Locked =/= taken down.

s1105615

January 12th, 2019 at 10:34 AM ^

maybe trying to avoid someone defending the decision and starting some sort of flame war?  trying to avoid having to send people to Bolivia preemptively?  who knows...

 

ndscott50

January 12th, 2019 at 10:34 AM ^

Not a good look for U of M. The she is with the team statement without any sort of official announcement also looks bad given her background.

Also not sure why the mod locked the thread. I will give benefit of the doubt and say it was early in the morning and they made a mistake. That being said, seems like we all should have picked up on the idea that limiting discussion of these types of issues is bad

The Pharaoh of Filth

January 12th, 2019 at 12:34 PM ^

Ironically enough, a board full of people who wine to mommy to ban anyone they don't like turns a thread about a gymnastics coach into a thread about locking threads and over-moderation...

America--WHAT A COUNTRY!!!

Double-D

January 12th, 2019 at 10:41 AM ^

I would expect Warde has “final say” but it’s likely nobody in the Athletic Department had any idea of who,what, and why. 

Was there a background check?  

Maybe nobody has seen the headlines the last couple years out of East Lansing???

Edit:  After reading the article it sounds like she notified the proper channnels but needed more urgency and determination.  She’s probably a good person who failed a really bad situation.  (How McQueary never kicked the shit out of Sandusky is beyond me).   

ak47

January 12th, 2019 at 10:42 AM ^

He would be in charge of a head coach hire and that person would fill out their staff.

warde could definitely tell them not to hire a person though, it might just result in the head coach leaving. But I’d prefer the head coach leave than hire anyone from the fucking trash organization that USA gymnastics proved to be 

stephenrjking

January 12th, 2019 at 1:26 PM ^

People have been unfairly critical of Warde for basically anything they can attempt to make up, but this is an area where even if he is not the prime mover in the hire, he is involved with it and should be aware of the potential publicity. It's his job to be involved with and aware of this stuff.

He should be the one to be up front and deal with the ethical and public issues that come here. He's already dropped the ball a bit here and there needs to be some sort of press release / press conference by end of day Monday. 

 

ak47

January 12th, 2019 at 10:44 AM ^

This is the sort of thing where fans should send emails to the ad letting them know there are more important things than winning.

RedRum

January 12th, 2019 at 10:46 AM ^

If i was an accountant at Author Anderson or worked for Enron, should I never be allowed to work anywhere again?

I don't know the facts, but if she wasn't committing the atrocity, nor witnessing it, nor overseeing the person committing the atrocity, where does culpability end? Follow this to its logical conclusion. We are all within seven degrees of separation from Nassar. Are we all guilty?

Bando Calrissian

January 12th, 2019 at 10:49 AM ^

No. If you have a connection to the Nassar cover-up, no, you should not be coaching at Michigan while the controversy continues to be mishandled up the road at Michigan State.

And furthermore, if this is such a great and worthy hire, why would Michigan do nothing to publicize that it happened?

Bad look, bad timing, bad idea.

heyyoujesson

January 12th, 2019 at 10:58 AM ^

The facts are known she fucked up and shouldn't be hired. Don't let your lack of knowledge of the situation dictate what facts are. They are real things and they exist even if they aren't in your sphere of knowledge. You could also follow the old adage don't speak on something you know nothing about.

bacon1431

January 12th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^

You didn’t know the facts so you tried to slow others down. Others knew the facts though. You’re making it seem like people are getting carried away solely because you didn’t take the time to inform yourself. Nobody else is virtue signaling. In fact, you are by trying to be the “let’s slow our roll” guy

heyyoujesson

January 12th, 2019 at 11:49 AM ^

Who is virtue signalling? Stop using dumb fucking internet buzz words please use language that people use on a daily basis. No one uses that term in real life only people who live on the internet talk that way. What emotions as well? The emotion that someone didn't do their job correctly and therefore should no longer be considered for another position that could lead to people being hurt without proper reporting? I mean Jesus Christ man you talked out of your ass got called on it then doubled down with ridiculous internet language when all you could have said was.... Didn't know the whole story and talked out of turn. Is that so hard to do?

RedRum

January 12th, 2019 at 12:47 PM ^

I see things differently than you do. I'm glad, however that we are discussing in the open. I believe that a well informed fan base prevents win at all costs behavior that plague universities and provide an incentive to sacrifice ethics and virtue for dollars and winning. 

There are reports that she did alert through the proper channels. She was put in a terrible position. I empathize with her until facts don't allow me to continue. 

That said, I understand where you are coming from and don't think your side is wrong logically until people are wrongly fired from earning their livelihood. 

Not asking you to see it my way. Just food for thought. Happy blogging and go Blue