December 18th, 2018 at 8:38 AM ^
Sun rises in the east
December 18th, 2018 at 8:41 AM ^
Water is wet
December 18th, 2018 at 8:46 AM ^
Light red is not orange.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:50 AM ^
The pope shits in the woods.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^
And Charlie Brown goes to kick the football again.
December 18th, 2018 at 9:08 AM ^
Unfortunately, this seems to be our theme against those a-holes for the last 15 to 20 years. I've had enough with OSU - time to start beating them on a regular basis. Harrison was all but signed, sealed, and delivered to UM until the beatdown.
December 18th, 2018 at 9:15 AM ^
Are you Bluey? Have a tendency to flaggelate yourself? Anyway, keep telling yourself that UM "had" Harrison. He never committed.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:29 AM ^
User pic checks out
December 18th, 2018 at 10:38 AM ^
Your kidding right? The kid lives in Columbus it was a huge uphill battle from Day one. He was never signed sealed and delivered to UM.
December 18th, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^
Hey!
OK, I do sometimes. It's quite liberating.
December 18th, 2018 at 9:10 AM ^
And OSU scores again
December 18th, 2018 at 10:10 AM ^
And your act still sucks... AGAIN
December 18th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
December 18th, 2018 at 11:58 AM ^
Dick.
December 18th, 2018 at 11:00 AM ^
Man he’s not even from ohio. He’s from Chicago. The corrupt Ohio gets him and Justin fields. Evil triumphs good. What did we do to piss off the gods?
December 18th, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^
Uh... "we" pushed out Lloyd Carr and hired a guy away from his alma mater.
D'shawn Hand ended up not being D'shawn Hand. We'll live. Bummer to see Harrison go to OSU if that is where he goes.
December 18th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^
Pushed out??
Come on, that's not even remotely true. He was out the door the year prior except "we" begged him to stay for one more year.
December 29th, 2018 at 6:51 PM ^
Zach moved here I believe in the 7th grade ...
December 18th, 2018 at 8:39 AM ^
FUCK!
December 18th, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^
Eventually, yes. I occasionally wonder how kids these days are making their decisions. If they are "elite," it really won't matter which Power Five program they attend. Put in their shoes, I think I would base my decision on three criteria: 1. Can I get good coaching to enhance my potential, 2. Is there an honest opportunity to play sooner rather than later (and possibly jump start a pro career early), and 3. Can I get a quality education with an ample alumni support system in the event an unfortunate, career-ending injury occurs.
As such, Michigan should be at or near the top of any kid's list, assuming they can meet the admissions standards. These standards, of course, raise another issue that likely affects the competitive recruiting landscape. As in, "I'm a good player, but my grades don't meet Michigan's standards. However, I can be admitted into any number of other P5 programs..."
December 18th, 2018 at 1:04 PM ^
Are we sure Michigan really holds athletes to a higher initial academic standard for entry than other NCAA schools? The athletics website just mentions the NCAA bare minimum requirements and links out to the sliding scale for GPA and test scores.
Regardless, I think touting certain academics (high USNWR undergrad rankings, tops among public universities, etc.) is a large nothing-burger for athletes. I'd go so far as to say that unless a potential student is really set on one topic it really doesn't make much of a difference (I remember one LB recruit several years back that was into petroleum engineering and as such ended up at, I believe, West Virginia). Other areas where it might make a difference would be going to a competitive ivy to form networks if you are interested in Wall Street or a prestigious graduate degree (law, business, etc.). Even there, the reports show that entry into the graduate degrees are becoming more merit-based, although favoritism will always exist.
The fact of the matter is most students can get comparable educations and networks (the real value of education, imho) from a lot of schools.
I agree with the points of proper coaching and playing opportunity, but I do think you missed on some big ones in these recruits' minds- how successful has the program been recently and does it look to be successful in the near future? Who are the other members of the class? And finally, how well do I see myself fitting in on campus in general? These recruits are people after all, and no doubt many factors play into the decision.
December 18th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^
The entry standards for UM scholarship athletes are the same as any other university. Don’t get it twisted, nobody is being turned away from UM that would not be turned away from any of your rivals.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:39 AM ^
Not many good vibes coming off his potential commitment since the OSU game.
December 18th, 2018 at 9:43 AM ^
Something happened after that OSU game, and I mean something more than "everyone realized they kicked our asses." Maybe it was a bit before that, like the IU or RU games?
We discussed a bit on the Aubrey threads, but the vibe coming off the program has not been good lately. People transferring, flipping their commitments. The offense largely going vanilla despite gaining experience. Team captains and leaders sitting for the bowl game (which I endorse and support, but it makes an impact nonetheless).
There's a bit of WTF surrounding this team right now.
December 18th, 2018 at 9:51 AM ^
Aubrey was leaving since midseason.
We just flipped Anthony Solomon, and will land Cornelius Johnson.
Your perception, is not reality.
December 18th, 2018 at 1:09 PM ^
Aubrey was leaving the day he signed with UM so I don’t think this is Harbaugh working him too hard or whatever we think is going on. And I’m surprised Harbaugh or anybody thought it was a good idea to sign a kid who tells UM to f#ck off
December 18th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
Is that accurate, though?
We lost Daxton Hill, but we gained Trevor Keegan and Anthony Solomon.
Aubrey Solomon is transferring, but so is Justin Fields from a team that a lot of people insist should have been in the CFP.
Rashan Gary is sitting out the bowl game, but so is Will Grier.
There is a natural ebb and flow in college football.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
C’mon Magnus, there is no place for facts and rational perspective around here these days.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
I mean facts-wise:
Michigan picked up two very good recruits, but lost their absolute best recruit, the exact type of player who helps immediately in dealing with Ohio State's WRs.
Aubrey Solomon, if healthy, would likely have been our best DL next year. Fields, while immensely talented, was Georgia's back-up QB.
Rashan Gary sitting out the bowl game makes sense. As it does for Grier. But Michigan is potentially looking at something like 5-6 guys sitting out. Which of course is a little different.
Honestly, the "facts" people all seem to be a little off.
Michigan blew a huge opportunity this year and its probably going to take a monster season next year to correct the course.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^
SMH.
Probably get an 11th win in about 10 days. That will be something only about 6 teams or so will accomplish this season.
I'll take the present course minus the hyperbolic fans who lack long-term perspective.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
Florida is going to be ready to play in that football game. They are coming off two high profile losses to Michigan, have played (and beaten) good competition in their conference and have a new talented coach trying to establish their culture. The vibe around here is that the game is "meaningless." I don't think Florida agrees. To my knowledge, all of their players are playing including at least one early entry into the NFL draft and a couple of other players with legit NFL draft stock. I hope we have had a good month of practice since the OSU game because that is going to be a tough go. (And our last two bowl games have not been exactly inspiring).
December 18th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
This is why we need the leaders on the team, the captains(!!) and experienced guys to play and help the team. The program needs a win to recover momentum and change the narrative. Plus, the guys leaving should want to wash the OSU loss from their mouth - leave on a high note.
December 18th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^
Where does this 5-6 players sitting out crap come from? I've heard about several guys leaving early, but so far Gary is the only non-participant. Bush has said he'll play. Winovich the same. Hill and Long are probably gone, but no news of sitting out. Give it a rest.
December 18th, 2018 at 12:08 PM ^
Could be right.
By all accounts Bush, Gary and Higdon are sitting.
Seems like the CBs might play.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
Bottom line is people need to calm the f down. The program will go on. We will likely win 10 or so games as long as Harbaugh is at the helm, and we will probably beat OSU at some point.
Just tune out the noise, because that's all this is.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
I'm in BPONE mode until further notice, so thank you for the perspective. +1
December 18th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
Will it tho? Will the program go on?!
If Michigan loses a recruit, AND A PLAYER TRANSFERS. . . I don't see how we can ever win a game again. You're just delusional if you think otherwise.
December 18th, 2018 at 10:43 AM ^
Thanks for the true perspective Magnus. Some people are just typical chicken little and think every negative happening means the program is falling apart even though we had plenty of good news this week with landing two huge recruits
December 18th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^
Considering our defections, flips and CB changes are all on the defensive side, I don't think the offense is part of it.
Not to be cryptic, but we had some transfers on the defensive side of the ball in the early-mid 1990s and Mattison was DL/DC during that period. Trevor Pryce and David Bowens were two future NFL players that transferred out and those guys were getting playing time before they left.
December 18th, 2018 at 11:40 PM ^
Bingo! You can't skip out on the local school and go to the rival school...when the rival school has never produced in your lifetime. Kid has to go home with pride.
Winner will be OSU and PSU...50/50. 0% for UM.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:39 AM ^
He gone
December 18th, 2018 at 9:24 AM ^
This gif should come in handy this coming offseason.
December 18th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^
So rare to see familiar faces here of all places.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:22 PM ^
Damn, I had to double-check what website I was on.
Talk about confusing.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:41 AM ^
Green Day voice: Wake me up, when recruiting ends.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:41 AM ^
Keep it coming.
December 18th, 2018 at 8:42 AM ^
Least surprising thing ever.