Waaaaay OT: Def Leppard in the R&R Hall of Fame
And suddenly, for a moment, all is right with the world!
But Janet Jackson in before Whitney Houston? I don't think so, Tim!
Oh, and Radiohead got in, too. Cool.
December 13th, 2018 at 9:57 AM ^
What has seven arms and sucks?
December 13th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^
Couldn't say, because Def Leppard is a five-piece outfit.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^
Need to know what the Fugitive thinks about this!
December 13th, 2018 at 11:14 AM ^
Not to stereotype, but anyone missing an arm is a hitman and murderer. I also have an urge to pistol whip and tough talk them.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
Handicapped spiders
December 13th, 2018 at 12:17 PM ^
Hey Grendel - The jerk store called, and they are running out of you.
Def Lep is the bomb. You just ain't "geddon it".
December 13th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
They were the bomb 20 years ago. Today though they just need to stop and call it a career
December 13th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^
The sheer power of "Pour Some Sugar on Me" as a strip club anthem cannot possibly be overstated.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
Are strip clubs in Canada held to the same quota of Canadian bands that Canadian radio stations use?
December 13th, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
Probably the only time you'll hear RUSH in a strip club.
December 13th, 2018 at 9:57 PM ^
Nickleback should cover Def Leppard songs. It would be fitting for both bands.
December 19th, 2018 at 2:17 PM ^
Why, so that Nickelback can finally have a good song, and Leppard will have a terrible song?
December 13th, 2018 at 2:29 PM ^
PSSHH! I just saw them this summer with Journey. Great show!
December 13th, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^
When discussing this topic, remember one thing: Hall & Oats are in. Base everything on that fact. Def Lep should certainly be in if Hall & Oats are in.
December 13th, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^
Jesus Christ. Did you just misspell Oates? Twice? How dare you cast shade at the best background/#2 singer to ever walk this earth. Blasphemy.
December 13th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^
I love listening to Darryl Hall and John Oates and I'm not ashamed of it.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^
An octopus that narrowly escaped a battle with a shark?
That seems like an odd thing to add to this thread.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^
dude if you are gonna make a lame ass attempt at a joke at least get it right. Wow you are a tool
December 14th, 2018 at 12:24 AM ^
On Through The Night and High and Dry are exceptional rock albums. Pyromania and Hysteria, while more commercial, were also solid efforts.
December 13th, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
While it has become more of just a "great at Music" recognition, I think it still does favor musicians who have had an impact, loosely, on the "rock and roll" culture specifically. JJ's early stuff like Rhythm Nation (and even some of her late career) had a lot of distinct rock and roll elements. It does not surprise me that she got in before Whitney.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:01 AM ^
Well, pour some sugar on me.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:30 AM ^
I still wear this shirt to the gym all the time.
Wish we could win another good bowl game :-(
December 13th, 2018 at 10:43 AM ^
The problem is that the definition of a "good bowl" changes depending on whether we are in it. Like the Orange Bowl a couple of years ago was a win in a "good bowl" for Florida State but for Michigan it would have been regarded as "garbage" by the talking heads. Similarly, if Florida win the Peach Bowl it will be a "good bowl" win for them but not for us if we win it.
I guess that is just how it works now. If we lose it, it was embarrassing. If we win it, that just means it wasn't important. That is the Michigan football fan's reality now.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:18 AM ^
Winning the Orange Bowl over FSU would have been a good win for us. Anytime you can win one of the 4 major bowls, its a good win.
The Peach Bowl doesn't seem as good but now that they have added it and the Cotton to the NY6 lineup, seems like a big deal.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:49 AM ^
NY6...played on 12/29.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:03 AM ^
I enjoyed that the Rock of Ages show in Vegas made fun of Def Leppard because they wouldn't let them use any of their songs. That's about all I've got on Def Leppard... also does the R&R Hall of Fame feel the need to let everyone in at some point? I don't really pay attention but I usually hear about who got in randomly and I always think well this doesn't seem like a very exclusive club.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:10 AM ^
True, but it's not the only "not very exclusive club" in the HOF world. The Baseball HOF just selected Harold freaking Baines a few days ago.
It's no coincidence that 3 of the 12 on the committee had connections to the WhiteSux organization, including Tony LaRussa, who managed Baines thru much of his career.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
If Baines had played his whole career against the Tigers he would have been a first ballot HOFer. Absolutely killed them. Rest of the league, not so much.
December 14th, 2018 at 5:55 AM ^
It sure seemed like it, but I checked and Baines' .797 OPS vs Detroit is lower than his .820 career OPS. Only teams he fared worse against in a similar number of PAs were the Angels (.793) and Red Sox (.787).
Teams he killed were the A's (.855), Twins (.851), and Blue Jays (.849).
On the other hand, Ron Karkovice would definitely be in the HOF if he only faced the Tigers. Career .962(!) OPS vs Detroit, while just .672 overall.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^
The baseball HOF is actually fairly exclusive outside of a few outliers. I think the pro football HOF is probably a better example.
Not sure why they even call them halls of fame... just call it a museum where they add new exhibits yearly.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:20 AM ^
Baines - .289-380-1600 not exactly chk scratch.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^
True, but he was much more a compiler of numbers than one of the best players, especially since he was primarily a DH and a defensive liability. I'm not opposed to DHs entering the HOF, but there are a better candidates out there than Baines, especially the more deserving two-way players.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^
...and there was a significant increase in his power numbers for a couple years at about age 36. this was during the height of PEDs. though never accused, afaik, it makes me wonder a bit.
but ya, he did pile up some stats by driving in frank thomas but he was never considered one of the top players. he finished 9th once in mvp voting. that was his best.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
I listened to Hysteria a lot as a kid. It seems a little cheesy now that I'm older but I've got a soft spot for 80's hair bands.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^
Hysteria was the first ever album (well, tape, technically) that I ever bought that I was disappointed in.
I loved Pyromania (still do; Photograph is one of the best rock songs of all-time) and then Def Lep had a serious hiatus due to Rick Allen's injury. By the time Hysteria came around, I was old enough to buy my own music, so I bought Hysteria as soon as it came out.
I listened to it for a good two weeks trying to like it and finally realized, "Eh....it's fine, but too plodding and overproduced." It didn't rock.
I spent much more time with Appetite for Destruction, which came out around the same time (that fantastic album perhaps rocked a bit too much -- my young ears did not quite know what hit them, besides that it was awesome and used some foul language).
Obviously, things worked out OK for them. They deserve to be in based on album sales and influence, alone, so good for them.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:09 AM ^
Yep... Listening to Sirius radio every day (Ch 25 - classic rock), I've heard voting updates constantly from the DJ that works out of R&R HoF in Cleveland. Whatever - Def Leppard tripled up the vote over the next closest band. I don't know who the next closest band was, because I didn't pay attention. Why do I pay for Sirius XM? To not have to listen to people blather on. Just play the music, already...
(Why not Spotify, or similar, you ask? Sirius is mindlessly easy and all I want to do is listen. Maybe I'm missing something? IDK, don't care. I'm old - get off my lawn!) (Not as old as MGrowOld, though...)
December 13th, 2018 at 10:53 AM ^
That was more insight into your disordered thinking than I was looking for this morning, TBH.
December 13th, 2018 at 10:09 AM ^
Sadly, still no MC5...
December 13th, 2018 at 10:12 AM ^
MC5 much more deserving than Def Leppard if you look at their impact/influence on what followed
December 13th, 2018 at 10:53 AM ^
F*ck yeah.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^
Yeah...no.
Love MC5.
But Def Lep, along with Motley Crue and Guns n Roses, are in their own world in regards to their impact on those of us who listed to them - loudly - and partied through the 80's.
If you want to promote MC5 as worthy - I am all about that. But do not compare them.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
You certainly can compare them in terms of influence.
MC5 are like the Velvet Underground -- negligible sales, but a huge impact on numerous, much more popular bands. The MC5 had a big impact on both punk and grunge. Heck, Pearl Jam just played Kick out the Jams this summer in front of 50,000 people -- it killed, as always.
Def Leppard was also hugely influential (specifically, Mutt Lange giving them those arena-ready choruses and guitar hooks) on the 80s pop/hair metal scene. They just happened to be amazingly popular, as well.
December 13th, 2018 at 2:40 PM ^
As William Munny said in "Unforgiven", "Deserves got nothing to do with it".
December 15th, 2018 at 11:20 AM ^
Yeah, why should entry into the Rock N Roll HOF have anything at all to do with whether you contributed to the making of the genre?
December 13th, 2018 at 11:22 AM ^
The MC5 are a difficult band.
It's not like they wrote good songs and made good records...
December 13th, 2018 at 12:09 PM ^
Kick out the jams and F**K Hudsons. (obligatory old person comment).
December 15th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A
December 15th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A
C/w "Pour Some Sugar," which is synthetic and meaningless drivel. Sorry, I don't give a cr*p how many copies your songs sold; I care if they're clever, innovative, etc. #Redhotthongmy*ss. :)
December 13th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^
I have had no clue who the MC5 was til you just posted it. I googled them and there is no fucking shot they should be in and they never will be.
Boston should be in the rock & roll hall of fame.