The B1G may be trying to add Oklahoma and Texas
That would effectively kill the Big 12.
December 7th, 2018 at 9:35 AM ^
The Big 12 can continue on after we give them Rutgers, Maryland and a player to be named later.
December 7th, 2018 at 9:43 AM ^
I'm laughing
December 8th, 2018 at 1:25 PM ^
You know what would be interesting in a 16-team league? Two divisions but European soccer-style, with a Premier League, a second division, and 3 team promotion/relegation each year. That way the elite teams could have a round-robin against each other, and the crap teams could compete for promotion to the Premier League.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
Hell, give them ped state and little brother.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^
Send Nebraska back and have UCF join that league. Scott Frost can then lose to his old team.
We beat Lil' Bro in every sport this year - I like that. Drive an hour, kick some ass, drive home.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
I like having Nebraska in the B1G.
Fuck Penn State though and their delusional JoePa worshiping fanbase.
December 7th, 2018 at 11:23 AM ^
You're no EJG.
December 7th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^
Yeah, but thankfully that's true about anyone else on the blog...
December 9th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
Not trying to be.
...but I've been saying that for a long time now.
#NeverForget.
December 7th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
Definitely can have Nebraska back. I didn’t think Oklahoma would make a move without Okie State. I thought there was even legislature in that state that would prevent that
December 7th, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^
OU and OSU are definitely tied at the hip through state legislation and multimillionaire Boone Pickens' $$$ and influence. That said, the B1G tried to get both of them once before and will try again when the Big 12 GOR expires.
The most informative person on expansion is Frank the Tank. He's to expansion what MgoBlog is to UM. Not very active since realignment has slowed down the past couple of years, but he still blogs when new info comes out and his old posts are still solid gold IMHO.
Texas has always been the gold standard prize in realignment. They've flirted with the B1G a couple times in the past, but their own arrogance caused them to overplay their hand and left them in a piece meal conference. Now that things have settled, and their brand isn't what it once was, they may actually be interested.
December 7th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
great points. I'd be very happy to let Texas go to the SEC, and take in Oklahoma and OSU #2 (THE Oklahoma State University !!!) hahaha .... It would be miles ahead of Rutger and Marysland.
Go Blue!
December 7th, 2018 at 2:59 PM ^
Could you explain more specifically how Ohio State and Oklahoma are “tied at the hip?”
December 7th, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^
OSU can mean more than one University
Without "The" in front of it, it could be Oklahoma State (in the case above) or Oregon State (n/a as they are PAC 12)
December 7th, 2018 at 6:06 PM ^
Just like USC. Ask any South Carolina fan and they will explain how they came first and are the "true USC."
December 8th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
Their brand isn't what it used to be? no offense but I live in Texas and they have a HUGE brand. The top two revenue generating programs in the country are both in Texas....1. Texas A&M 2. Univ of Texas. I would say Texas' brand is doing just fine. They have won a national championship this century and have had a lot players go high in the drafts. I'm not a Texas guy but to act like they are "littler" than schools in the B1G is just comical.
December 7th, 2018 at 12:27 PM ^
How many people wanna kick some ass?
December 7th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^
Jay and Silent Bob, classic.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
Actually, they could pick up UCF, Memphis, Houston and still be about the same as the Pac12... would also gut the Group of 5 a bit as a bonus, keep them in their place.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:41 AM ^
It obviously depends on the metric you use, but:
Iowa State, WVU, TCU, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Okie St + UCF, Memphis, Houston
would seem to be <<<
Arizona, Arizona St, Cal, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon St, USC, Stanford, Utah, Washington, WSU
December 7th, 2018 at 11:26 AM ^
Understatement.
December 7th, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^
I dunno... the top group is at least as good this year...
December 7th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
If OU and Texas ever left the Big 12, all of their other schools would be looking for a way out too. There would be interest in some of them. Whoever remained would take all of those schools that applied last time. The new Big 12 would essentially become what the AAC is trying to claim it is now.
December 7th, 2018 at 1:11 PM ^
i would guess wva would flee to the acc in about 2 seconds.
December 7th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
The ACC would be in an interesting position. They might decide it's time to force Notre Dame's hand. UWV is the obvious geographical fit, but Kansas for basketball would be something to consider. There's still grumbling about taking Louisville because of their academics too. WVU might fit better in the SEC.
December 7th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^
I'm unsure if the ACC wants WVU. They had a chance to get them when Maryland left for the B1G, but invited Louisville instead.
December 7th, 2018 at 3:29 PM ^
The player to be named later is Staee
December 7th, 2018 at 7:18 PM ^
I don't want them to go. I want to own them for eternity.
December 7th, 2018 at 8:47 PM ^
You can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family. They will forever M's little bro.
December 7th, 2018 at 9:36 AM ^
Which would make the plan to get rid of divisions EXTRA dum.
December 7th, 2018 at 9:50 AM ^
I would think that's an argument for getting rid of divisions. At 16 teams you may as well just split the Big 10 into two different conferences. Then each of those can be round robin.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:01 AM ^
You could rename the West the Big 8.....
December 7th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
I have long thought this ends with a 20 team super conference that eventually splits into two 10 team divisions with one division being the original Big Ten thus putting us back at square one and having the cycle go on in perpetuity.
December 7th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^
Is your name Ira, and did I hear you propose this same realignment on the WTKA airwaves this morning?
December 7th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^
The original Big Ten? If this includes bringing Chicago back to replace MSU, I'm all in.
December 7th, 2018 at 11:41 AM ^
I would be okay with continuing the 4-team CFP as long as you had a PAC-20, BIG-20, 20-team SEC and 20-team ACC, and then made it official that those 4 winners get the 4 spots.
None of this eye-test, at-large bullshit anymore. Settle it on a level playing field.
December 7th, 2018 at 12:05 PM ^
6 teams. 5 power 5 champions and highest ranked independent/g6.
1&2 seeds get 1st round bye.
December 7th, 2018 at 2:20 PM ^
Was just about to type the same thing. Didn't Seth or Brian promote this tongue-in-cheek where basically the one division was the old big ten? 2 Divisions with a conference championship? That would basically be an 8 team playoff since the conference champion would be auto bids.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
Go to 20 teams. Have one “division” the old Big 10 before Ped State came in. Put all the other teams in the other division. Play round robin in your division, then play the champion of the other division.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:14 AM ^
Then only one of your good teams makes the lame-*ss playoff.
December 7th, 2018 at 10:17 AM ^
Playoffs expand to 16 teams, CCGs become nothing but money grabs that have no bearing on who makes said playoffs
December 7th, 2018 at 11:57 AM ^
As opposed to what CCGs are now?
December 7th, 2018 at 10:46 AM ^
The conference championship game effectively becomes the first round of the playoffs of 8 teams from 4 conferences each with 2 divisions.
December 7th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Keep the divisions. We could get a good Championship Game.
West Division
Oklahoma, Texas, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Illinois
East Division
Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Maryland, Indiana, Rutger
December 7th, 2018 at 6:09 PM ^
Change to North an South.
Michigan, MSU, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Penn State, Northwestern, Purdue and rutger
IU, Illinois, Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, OU and Maryland
December 7th, 2018 at 1:16 PM ^
yep. you could put OK and TX in the west. then move PU to the east. the divisions would actually be more competitively balanced then for football. basketball could be more messy.
December 7th, 2018 at 9:37 AM ^
If we would add Texas and Oklahoma, I would want to see Oklahoma State and Kansas, too. Kansas for basketball purposes of course.
December 7th, 2018 at 11:40 AM ^
If I remember right from the last round of talks, any conference looking to add Oklahoma HAS to take Oklahoma State. They are a package deal at the state legistalure level I believe.
Which if you could find a way to add OU, OSU, and Texas and boot Rutgers I’d mostly be fine with that. But at 16 teams you’re more of two smaller 8-team conferences.
December 7th, 2018 at 11:56 AM ^
I'm pretty sure that OU and OSU as a package deal is not a thing. They may want to stay in the same conference but it is not a law. https://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2011/8/12/2360002/are-oklahoma-and-oklahoma-state-really-a-package-deal